Riche Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 , they don't need aid, just a bit of mentoring in how to manage their wealth. What wealth. Most statse that recieve aid are unstable and corupt. I put it that we give aid to buy stability, rather like puttin a muzzle on a mad dog, when really you should kill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 India for example has many people at the extremes of poverty but also some mega wealthy. Rather than just donating aid to help their poor, we should be showing them how to redistribute their wealth ... To which they would reply "but we are just copying your system". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riche Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 We need to stop overseas aid and then spend the money on ourselves. Put it into health, schools and public transport where we will see some bnfit from it instead of just handing to every sob stroy that comes along. Damn I'm not alone. Should I go further. Let Pakistanies who now live and work here or more over draw on our benifits send money ,no money from the public purse should be sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riche Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 I could possibly support the creating of something in each of the countries we give humanitarian aid to whereby the money goes to them, who then make sure the money goes to where it is needed, rather than into someones coffers. Note humanitarian aid, not economic aid. Idealism is dirrectly proportianate to one's distance from the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Aid is rarely just about being magnanimous. It is equally about trade and political influence. India receives considerable aid and in turn Indian investment is now one of the biggest creators of new jobs in the UK in general and London in particular (not to mention potential markets being opened up for UK companies in India itself). Arguably if you withdraw aid from many of the 'poorer' countries receiving it other countries (China in particular) will gladly take up the slack and the associated political influence. By and large government aid is cynicism taken to a new level. All the more so when countries that are being helped on the surface are being lobbied against by the same countries in the corridors of the World Trade Organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 All we get from Pakistan is PaKIistanies, most are economic migrants. The odd doctor who should stay at home and help thier own peolpe. They might not depend on volenteer doctors then. No, what we get is Pakistan's aid in the war against the Taliban. They are taking the brunt of the civilian causalities, their military losses dwarf ours. Unless you think we should either put more military forces into the fight, or accept defeat at the Taliban's hands the money is being well spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riche Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Aid is rarely just about being magnanimous. It is equally about trade and political influence. India receives considerable aid and in turn Indian investment is now one of the biggest creators of new jobs in the UK in general and London in particular (not to mention potential markets being opened up for UK companies in India itself). Arguably if you withdraw aid from many of the 'poorer' countries receiving it other countries (China in particular) will gladly take up the slack and the associated political influence. By and large government aid is cynicism taken to a new level. All the more so when countries that are being helped on the surface are being lobbied against by the same countries in the corridors of the World Trade Organisation. What the hell do we want from Pakistan then. Don't we have enough of thier unwanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 What the hell do we want from Pakistan then. Don't we have enough of thier unwanted. This might help: http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/latest-news/2011/04/pm-announces-pakistan-trade-boost-62890 Also I'm not sure how good your geography is but Pakistan is regarded as strategically important right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthebean Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Aid is rarely just about being magnanimous. It is equally about trade and political influence. India receives considerable aid and in turn Indian investment is now one of the biggest creators of new jobs in the UK in general and London in particular (not to mention potential markets being opened up for UK companies in India itself). Arguably if you withdraw aid from many of the 'poorer' countries receiving it other countries (China in particular) will gladly take up the slack and the associated political influence. By and large government aid is cynicism taken to a new level. All the more so when countries that are being helped on the surface are being lobbied against by the same countries in the corridors of the World Trade Organisation. Well said. Its unhelpful to frame the debate in terms of 'are we being too nice to poor people when we cant afford our own bills' as aid is rarely about being 'nice'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 To which they would reply "but we are just copying your system". Haha i was just gonna say that lol Must be lovely living in that black and white right wing world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.