Longcol Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 ok lets try again... there is NO evidence whats so ever that the jamican born Abdullah El-Faisal ever promised 72 virgins to any one... Go back to post #6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 You appear to be claiming that is isn't. The guy accused of wanting to "wipe Israel off the map" is known, and has been proven, to have used the equivalent Arab idiom - "wiped out of the pages of history" or something along those lines. You're claiming that Muslim fanatic leaders do not promise 72 virgins to their followers. eh? Since when has the Iranian president been speaking Arabic? what is a Muslim fanatic leader? I have never come across a Muslim promising 72 virgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthlogic Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 No - but why are most victims of suicide bombs fellow muslims? logically thinking most bombings take place in Muslim countries?! the subject is why has the media used this piece of propaganda to imply that Islam teaches this? clearly propaganda , just like how the Nazis used to demonsize the jews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Star Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 logically thinking most bombings take place in Muslim countries?! the subject is why has the media used this piece of propaganda to imply that Islam teaches this? clearly propaganda , just like how the Nazis used to demonsize the jews? Are you sure that you really mean that the nazis didn't demonise Jews? Are you aware of the holocaust? Not only Jewish surviours to tell the tale, but the soliders that opened up the camps after liberation - all liars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthlogic Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 It has to be said that the crap that spouts from fundamentalists makes good copy though... Easier to stand amazed at what some people will believe, than to write thought provoking copy regarding the ins and outs of the middle east etc... You can read such things in the UK media, however... You don't have to be a slave to the redtops... True, but im sure a vast slice of the populations digests everything which is handed too them by the tabloids , im sure there are large sways of the Muslim community who have also been made too believe that 72 virgins is written in their books , as is the power of suggestion by the main stream media! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 As non-muslims I don't think it's our place to comment on the details of the religion. All we can comment on is how the religion affects us. I don't care about the details of the motivation of a suicide bomber. All I care about is that it is wrong. well that's a rather stupid approach to the situation isn't it? if it wasn't for western governments dropping bombs all over Muslim countries blowing up innocent civilians in their hundreds and thousands and then labelling civilians as terrorists there would be no threat from Muslim suicide bombers. Having said that all the evidence regarding attacks like 9/11 and 7/7points to an inside job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 logically thinking most bombings take place in Muslim countries?! Yes - but why do they do it? We've established it isn't for 72 virgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Star Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 True, but im sure a vast slice of the populations digests everything which is handed too them by the tabloids , im sure there are large sways of the Muslim community who have also been made too believe that 72 virgins is written in their books , as is the power of suggestion by the main stream media! Are the redtops the only mainstream media? I would like to hope that just as many who read these read other publications which are equally simple to get hold of, such as broadsheets and political magazines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Star Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Yes - but why do they do it? We've established it isn't for 72 virgins. Because the muslims they bomb aren't as oppressed as they are, I would imagine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthlogic Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 Are you sure that you really mean that the nazis didn't demonise Jews? Are you aware of the holocaust? Not only Jewish surviours to tell the tale, but the soliders that opened up the camps after liberation - all liars? what??!! Nazis were the first to use TV propaganda to great effect! yes they did use it too demonize ethnic minorities , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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