Harleyman Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 please if there are any islamaphobes please dont post, this thread is Only to do with how the western media uses this story further their agenda. If you research into the Islamic texts you will realize that there is no mention of 72virgins or any type of reward for suicide. see link: http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2007/03/04/debunking-the-suicide-for-72-virgins-myth/ Yet the whole Entire western media has latched on too this catchphrase and is repeated over and over , including our very own BBC, Yes there is one record of a mullah in Gaza telling folk this tale, but other than that what evidence is there that even fundelmetalists call for such a thing? Even the BBC have attempted to mislead its readers and suggest a Jamaican born Muslim repeated these calls. but in fact he did not, read on http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2687797.stm why would the BBC make up words? is this another case of "wipe Israel of the map" syndrome It's not the 72 Virgins that's the problem. No one but a retard would believe that anyway (but some do). The problem with Islamic extremism is that it preaches glory in death. Blow yourself up along with as many of the targeted group as possible and there's martydom and glory for those who do it. Evil, twisted old men brainwashing young and gullible poorly educated youngsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Star Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 what??!! Nazis were the first to use TV propaganda to great effect! yes they did use it too demonize ethnic minorities , Ok - I took your previous post to mean that the nazis didn't target Jews, as it was simply media propaganda... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Yes - but why do they do it? We've established it isn't for 72 virgins. mainly because the west comes bombing and invading Muslim countries starts military occupations which then causes a prolonged and bloody conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthlogic Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 Because the muslims they bomb aren't as oppressed as they are, I would imagine... your looking at this from a very 2 dimensional view now arent you? Pakistan only experienced bombings after near by Afghanistan was invaded and the Pakistani government was forced to attack its own population! Iraq no bombings , no ethnic tensions ( just decades of child killing sanctions ) along came the liberators - and hey presto mass bombings? or do these events take place because of promised <removed>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozy Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 ok lets try again... there is NO evidence whats so ever that the jamican born Abdullah El-Faisal ever promised 72 virgins to any one... now do you think that the bbc wont lie to you? My bold That is NOT fact - it's your opinion, which you have said yourself is based on nothing more than the fact that the BBC didn't make any direct quotes about the 72 virgins. Somebody above put on a linky to a newspaper article which does use quotation marks with reference to the 72 virgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 well that's a rather stupid approach to the situation isn't it? if it wasn't for western governments dropping bombs all over Muslim countries blowing up innocent civilians in their hundreds and thousands and then labelling civilians as terrorists there would be no threat from Muslim suicide bombers. Having said that all the evidence regarding attacks like 9/11 and 7/7points to an inside job. More muslim deaths have been caused by Muslim vs Muslim than any bombs from western countries. How many Shia and Sunni in Iraq after the fall of Saddam ? How many by suicide bombers in Afganistan and Pakistan ? How many currently in Yemen, Libya and Syria? How many dissidents in Iran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthlogic Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 It's not the 72 Virgins that's the problem. No one but a retard would believe that anyway (but some do). The problem with Islamic extremism is that it preaches glory in death. Blow yourself up along with as many of the targeted group as possible and there's martydom and glory for those who do it. Evil, twisted old men brainwashing young and gullible poorly educated youngsters i dont condone violence or war! but i get a sneaky suspicaian that if we did not have soldiers in these countries these events would not take place! may be just a hunch? afgan kids are given a gun before they can walk , its thier custom to be hard bad assess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Star Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 your looking at this from a very 2 dimensional view now arent you? Pakistan only experienced bombings after near by Afghanistan was invaded and the Pakistani government was forced to attack its own population! Iraq no bombings , no ethnic tensions ( just decades of child killing sanctions ) along came the liberators - and hey presto mass bombings? or do these events take place because of promised <removed>? I was being flip, after you originally claimed that the middle east bombed due to oppression... In reality they bomb because they're are groups of evil individuals and even larger groups of semi literate kids who are easily led all over the world, and there are many more terrorist groups in the world not just muslim terrorists... These people would always find something evil to do, and those who see attacks on others out would be guided by the first person who takes a interest in them, for good or bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthlogic Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 More muslim deaths have been caused by Muslim vs Muslim than any bombs from western countries. How many Shia and Sunni in Iraq after the fall of Saddam ? How many by suicide bombers in Afganistan and Pakistan ? How many currently in Yemen, Libya and Syria? How many dissidents in Iran? How many Shia and Sunni in Iraq after the fall of Saddam ? occupied How many by suicide bombers in Afganistan and Pakistan ? occupied How many currently in Yemen, Libya and Syria? western backed dictators / being bombed by us / and probably will be bombed in the next 6 months How many dissidents in Iran - west has backed terrorists organisations who have attacked iran / we supported a full scale war against them / we have sanctions against them etc etc et tell me this how many iraqis / afgans ever attacked the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 It's not the 72 Virgins that's the problem. No one but a retard would believe that anyway (but some do). The problem with Islamic extremism is that it preaches glory in death. Blow yourself up along with as many of the targeted group as possible and there's martydom and glory for those who do it. Evil, twisted old men brainwashing young and gullible poorly educated youngsters yes but would they be doing it if Israel wasn't occupying Palestine? If the Soviets had not invaded Afghanistan? If America had not invaded Iraq and Afghanistan? The west is providing plenty of opportunity for youngsters to end up as suicide bombers by creating the conditions in which martyrdom becomes the best option and in some cases the only option. The idea that some old cleric is brain washing people is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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