xstitcher Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Thats not my point, people who are voting may have had no dealing with this terrible crime and have no idea of the effects it has, but its the victims who would be the ones who could really tell you if there are varying degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman62 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 That's because those people will be thinking on an emotional level rather than using rational thought. I also think that the name of the accuser should be published if they're going to publish the name of the accused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xstitcher Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I also think that the name of the accuser should be published if they're going to publish the name of the accused. Why what would be the point in that? for even less victims to come forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Spyda Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Thats not my point, people who are voting may have had no dealing with this terrible crime and have no idea of the effects it has, but its the victims who would be the ones who could really tell you if there are varying degrees You don't have to experience something to have an opinion on how terrible it can be. Going by that logic, you would have to have been raped several times to tell if there are varying degrees, as being raped once wont give you the data you need as you have nothing to compare it with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman62 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Thats not my point, people who are voting may have had no dealing with this terrible crime and have no idea of the effects it has, but its the victims who would be the ones who could really tell you if there are varying degreesSo are you saying that a female who gets stupidly drunk and allows an equaly drunk male to have sex with her but later cries rape has suffered as much as a female (child or adult) who is attacked, dragged on to waste land, beaten in the process and then raped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaimani Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Thats not my point, people who are voting may have had no dealing with this terrible crime and have no idea of the effects it has, but its the victims who would be the ones who could really tell you if there are varying degrees this being a forum we all can put our two pence's worth in. i voted for varying degrees but have since revised my standing. the devastation, self blame etc is the same be it a drunk-didn't-say-no type or knife-to-the throat type. there are 'extra' things done 'GBH, Kidnapping, Drugging etc but the base crime is sex that wasn't supposed to happen does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman62 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 You don't have to experience something to have an opinion on how terrible it can be. Going by that logic, you would have to have been raped several times to tell if there are varying degrees, as being raped once wont give you the data you need as you have nothing to compare it with. Or murdered several times by different methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 a female who gets stupidly drunk and allows an equaly drunk male to have sex with her You've loaded the question, because that isn't rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman62 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 this being a forum we all can put our two pence's worth in. i voted for varying degrees but have since revised my standing. the devastation, self blame etc is the same be it a drunk-didn't-say-no type or knife-to-the throat type. there are 'extra' things done 'GBH, Kidnapping, Drugging etc but the base crime is sex that wasn't supposed to happen does. Many people can't remember fully what happened whilst they're drunk, whether they said yes or no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Spyda Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 You've loaded the question, because that isn't rape. A woman who is not in full control of herself while drunk can easily allow a man to have sex with her, while not actually consenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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