MC Spyda Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 What I'm trying to say is, if it came down to it, one might rather be very violently raped by someone they dont know than raped by ones own partner, especially if it was a case of 'not stopping' when asked. It might have an even worse effect on the victim than being attacked by a random psycho. I see where you are coming from. What might seem worse to an outsider may not necesarily be what is worse in reality for the individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742Sheff Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Yet again, that isn't rape. Rape within a marriage is rape. Rape outside of a marriage is rape, and violent rape is rape with aggravated sexual assault. In British law there are no degrees of rape. It is rape if an 18 year old man sleeps with a 14 year old girl is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 It's impossible to know how any individual will feel after being violated, but I don't think the law should take into account who the person is, because it doesn't matter who it is, they have broken the law regardless. What can and should be taken into account, is what exactly the woman has had to endure. "What can and should" is taken into account. If a woman is raped through fear without any other physical signs compared to a woman who has been physically beaten the only difference to her rape ordeal is being physically beaten. The courts will deal with that appropriately. Firstly the court has to establish rape, not how the rape was committed otherwise we may as well forget the formalities and hang him. Legally rape is seen as a singular act, as it should be. Sentencing is based on that act plus any other aggravated or mitigating circumstances. It doesn't excuse rape as a sliding scale.(Degrees) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 It is rape if an 18 year old man sleeps with a 14 year old girl is it not? Statutory rape, which is a seperate crime. Rape is about violation, statutory rape is about not being old enough to legally give consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 It is rape if an 18 year old man sleeps with a 14 year old girl is it not? Permission or not, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742Sheff Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Statutory rape, which is a seperate crime. Rape is about violation, statutory rape is about not being old enough to legally give consent. But it is still rape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 But it is still rape In this case as a minor, the adult is the one who has to make rational decisions, not only for himself but for the under age minor. In effect you not only make a decision for yourself, you also make the decision for the child. Like any other parent or guardian for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman62 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I and other people have given examples previously. A woman who has said yes, but then changes her mind half way through, but the guy doesn't stop instantly has been raped. That is nowhere near as bad as a woman being straight up raped from the outset and has never given consent. K, it matters how you are raped, not by whom. And what proof is there that the woman asked the man to stop, where are the witnesses, where is the recording, where is the video? This is one major point that nobody else seems to consider. What kind of mentality has a woman who encourages and consents to intercourse then claims to have changed her mind half way through and that the man wouldn't stop so she asks people to believe she was raped without any evidence to support the far fetched claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Spyda Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 And what proof is there that the woman asked the man to stop, where are the witnesses, where is the recording, where is the video? This is one major point that nobody else seems to consider. What kind of mentality has a woman who encourages and consents to intercourse then claims to have changed her mind half way through and that the man wouldn't stop so she asks people to believe she was raped without any evidence to support the far fetched claim? There is no proof as it is purely hypothetical. What you are referring to is an entirely different subject altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 There is no proof as it is purely hypothetical. What you are referring to is an entirely different subject altogether. Spot on........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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