fairyworld14 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 Thanx Rivelyn ,Iv taken your advice and sent for his birth certificate ! Iv got a feeling I might be opening a can of worms ! Dont know why ,just a gut feeling. Oh well ,lets wait and see eh ! My mum said she never met my Great grandad when she went visiting and before my dad got dementia I remember him saying he hadnt met him either.Curiouser and curiouser eh ! Iv got further on my Grandmas side and know her maiden names Rea,and thats where my Irish roots are.I know my Great Great Grandma on her side was married to a git called Charles Rayden who lost cardboard box buisness ! Thats another can of worms Never a dull moment,but art least mum confirmed that one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairyworld14 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 Yeah I saw that too ! Im just been driven crazy by that ! Mum said Issac hated his name but had to use it as he was pub landlord and had to have his proper name above pub door ! .He could have been my Grandads cousin and not brother though ! I found Grandads marriage certificate OK,and found his birth records on site,but didnt see any parents name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivelin6 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Yeah I saw that too ! Im just been driven crazy by that ! Mum said Issac hated his name but had to use it as he was pub landlord and had to have his proper name above pub door ! .He could have been my Grandads cousin and not brother though ! I found Grandads marriage certificate OK,and found his birth records on site,but didnt see any parents name. On your grandad's marriage certificate it should have his father's name unless there is a cross through that section which then implies he was illegitimate. That information would help trace them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivelin6 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Thanx Rivelyn ,Iv taken your advice and sent for his birth certificate ! Iv got a feeling I might be opening a can of worms ! Dont know why ,just a gut feeling. Oh well ,lets wait and see eh ! My mum said she never met my Great grandad when she went visiting and before my dad got dementia I remember him saying he hadnt met him either.Curiouser and curiouser eh ! Iv got further on my Grandmas side and know her maiden names Rea,and thats where my Irish roots are.I know my Great Great Grandma on her side was married to a git called Charles Rayden who lost cardboard box buisness ! Thats another can of worms Never a dull moment,but art least mum confirmed that one ! All families have hidden skeletons, if I told you some of the stories I found out from my father about what happened in his family your hair would stand up on end! I was 35 before I even knew I had a half brother. He lives in Ireland and I've been unable to trace him so far but have recently made contact with my step aunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairyworld14 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 I agree completely with you ! Its funny,a patient I told I was doing this,and trouble I was having ! He said well in those days some people just couldnt afford to get married ! MMM I wonder,but I will tell you it doesnt bother me in the least ! But if it turns out my gut instinct is right then I wont get any further ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivelin6 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I agree completely with you ! Its funny,a patient I told I was doing this,and trouble I was having ! He said well in those days some people just couldnt afford to get married ! MMM I wonder,but I will tell you it doesnt bother me in the least ! But if it turns out my gut instinct is right then I wont get any further ! Even further back some families didn't pay for a wedding until the woman was pregnant, then they knew it was a serious relationship. It gave the man a good chance to run away though too! lol. Something like 10% of all births were outside marriage in 1900s so it is more common than people think. It's very frustrating when you come to an abrupt end like that but sometimes it does happen like you say:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairyworld14 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 I agree ! But I cant get out of my head the fact the lodger Charles Arthur Peace was round about her age ! MMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Marriages Sep 1916 Peace Charles A Ecclesall B. 9c 499 Wragg Elizabeth Ecclesall B. 9c 499 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairyworld14 Posted May 25, 2011 Author Share Posted May 25, 2011 OMG where did u find that ! Oh WOW ! I was right all along ! So she had kids out of wedlock then didnt she ! Oh thankyou sooooo much ! U are an absolute star u are .xxxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivelin6 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Marriages Sep 1916 Peace Charles A Ecclesall B. 9c 499 Wragg Elizabeth Ecclesall B. 9c 499 So it looks like she got remarried and probably to a relative of the notorious Charlie Peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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