harvey19 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I think the salient point is that a gurkha can be visually identified as being a foreigner, whilst someone from Ireland wouldn't be. But they can as soon as they speak just like Eastern Europeans can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 What don't you like about non-native. There is a legitimate distinction. Are you just trying to infer I'm racist? Come on spit it out. Get to your point. You had a chance 3 pages ago. Whoa, it was your good self pontificating about treating people as people. I'm inferring you're a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Erikson Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Whoa, it was your good self pontificating about treating people as people. I'm inferring you're a hypocrite. Why? I noted they were non native for the purpose of the thread. You asked me how I knew. I answered your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 He would be regarded as someone who contributes to society. I think most of this thread is going off at a tangent. Not unless he walks around wearing his uniform or medals. As posted earlier, my view is that the vast majority of people are not racists but are concerned about the number of people coming into the country who can not or do not want to adopt this country's lifestyle, culture, language or can contribute by their abilities or skills. I've said this before, but I personally believe we're all racist to some degree, in that we're all capable of forming negative opinions about people based on stereotypes that we believe are true-I do it and am not ashamed to admit it, but it's the ability to recognise it and address those negative views-that's the issue. Referring to immigrants as an infestation, scum or benefit scroungers as I see often on this forum is not the way to overcome it. Incidentally, I've enjoyed your rational contributions to this thread and responding to them btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 But they can as soon as they speak just like Eastern Europeans can. Yes that's true, on reflection my comparison wasn't a valid one. Perhaps it's because someone from Southern Ireland or the richer states of Europe isn't regarded as negatively as someone with dark skin or from Eastern Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kafir Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 He is a British soldier loyally serving Queen and Country and deserves our respect for what he has done. End of story. He does get respect from most in this country. Apart from a tiny (but very noisy) minority within the muslim community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 You assume people would not just see him as a person. I'm afraid from my own experiences I know that's a naive view as virtuous as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 He does get respect from most in this country. Apart from a tiny (but very noisy) minority within the muslim community. Here we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kafir Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Here we go. Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Please explain. Well there's an equally tiny minority of non Muslims who don't respect the contributions of foreigners serving in the British army. "The BNP, led by Nick Griffin, called Johnson Beharry "an immigrant" and claimed his heroics, which saved the lives of 30 fellow soldiers, were simply "routine". On its website the far-right political party states that Lance Corporal Beharry only received Britain's top military honour because of "positive discrimination by the PC-mad government". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/5336891/BNP-war-hero-Johnson-Beharry-only-got-medal-because-he-is-black.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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