andikay Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Opposing the transfer of jobs overseas is nothing to do with racism, it doesn't matter whether they are going to India or anywhere else, it is the fact that they are jobs funded by the taxpayer and should therefore stay in this country, in my opinion. Would it be OK if they were jobs funded by the taxpayer but we bring 100 immigrants in to do them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 ...makes the Sheffield Lib Dem Council budget that was set in March look absolutely brilliant. No need to outsource jobs to India for Sheffield.They managed to keep redundancies down to a minimum. Found this article from the Birmingham Mail, it seems that the Lib Dem deputy leader is a board member of Service Birmingham, the council’s joint venture with Capital. Clearly more to this story than first meets the eye! UNIONS and Birmingham City Council bosses are today meeting to discuss the local authority’s controversial plans to outsource IT jobs to India. The Unite union is demanding the council puts a stop to its Capita-run Service Birmingham company hiring staff abroad and give the jobs to British workers instead. Capita has confirmed that it is currently taking on 17 support staff in its IT and HR departments in India, and could take on another 38 in August. The union claims the number could rise to 100 by the end of the year. Council opposition Labour leader Sir Albert Bore said the move was about cost-cutting and nothing to do with a local skills shortage. He said: “Birmingham City Council has a responsibility to protect the potential growth of technology companies within the city. It is not doing so. Offshoring jobs to India undermines the future of Birmingham. “At no time have the council said what savings are to be made, but it is obvious that is what they intended by this action. I am calling, once again, for greater transparency from the council leaders.” The council’s deputy leader, Lib Dem Paul Tilsley who is a board member of Service Birmingham, the council’s joint venture with Capita, defended the move saying that Capita has delivered hundreds of jobs for the city. He said: “We have a contract with Capita which brings jobs to Birmingham. They were to create 520 new jobs by March this year, they created 528 and under this contract are expected to increase this by a further 200 by April 2013. “The current offshoring proposal involves 17 vacant jobs and a possible 38 jobs which are either vacant or filled by temps.” He added that the Capita/Service Birmingham contract is delivering millions of pounds of savings and efficiencies, as well as a share of profits to benefit the taxpayer. “We are conscious of the employment situation in Birmingham, and are doing everything we can to ensure Capita delivers the jobs promised in its contract.” Meanwhile about 10,000 council workers, members of the Unison trade union, are being balloted for strike action over controversial new contracts imposed on staff. The union is angry that staff will lose pay as a range of overtime, weekend and shift worker allowances are scrapped. The ballot closes on June 21 and, if backed, industrial action is likely to take place in early July. Read More http://www.birminghammail.net/news/birmingham-news/2011/06/03/birmingham-city-council-in-showdown-over-overshoring-jobs-to-india-97319-28811517/#ixzz1OE6n16tX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Found this article from the Birmingham Mail, it seems that the Lib Dem deputy leader is a board member of Service Birmingham, the council’s joint venture with Capital. Clearly more to this story than first meets the eye! UNIONS and Birmingham City Council bosses are today meeting to discuss the local authority’s controversial plans to outsource IT jobs to India. The Unite union is demanding the council puts a stop to its Capita-run Service Birmingham company hiring staff abroad and give the jobs to British workers instead. Capita has confirmed that it is currently taking on 17 support staff in its IT and HR departments in India, and could take on another 38 in August. The union claims the number could rise to 100 by the end of the year. Council opposition Labour leader Sir Albert Bore said the move was about cost-cutting and nothing to do with a local skills shortage. He said: “Birmingham City Council has a responsibility to protect the potential growth of technology companies within the city. It is not doing so. Offshoring jobs to India undermines the future of Birmingham. “At no time have the council said what savings are to be made, but it is obvious that is what they intended by this action. I am calling, once again, for greater transparency from the council leaders.” The council’s deputy leader, Lib Dem Paul Tilsley who is a board member of Service Birmingham, the council’s joint venture with Capita, defended the move saying that Capita has delivered hundreds of jobs for the city. He said: “We have a contract with Capita which brings jobs to Birmingham. They were to create 520 new jobs by March this year, they created 528 and under this contract are expected to increase this by a further 200 by April 2013. “The current offshoring proposal involves 17 vacant jobs and a possible 38 jobs which are either vacant or filled by temps.” He added that the Capita/Service Birmingham contract is delivering millions of pounds of savings and efficiencies, as well as a share of profits to benefit the taxpayer. “We are conscious of the employment situation in Birmingham, and are doing everything we can to ensure Capita delivers the jobs promised in its contract.” Meanwhile about 10,000 council workers, members of the Unison trade union, are being balloted for strike action over controversial new contracts imposed on staff. The union is angry that staff will lose pay as a range of overtime, weekend and shift worker allowances are scrapped. The ballot closes on June 21 and, if backed, industrial action is likely to take place in early July. Read More http://www.birminghammail.net/news/birmingham-news/2011/06/03/birmingham-city-council-in-showdown-over-overshoring-jobs-to-india-97319-28811517/#ixzz1OE6n16tX As it's a joint venture between Capita and the council how is it strange that a council member should be on the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 Would it be OK if they were jobs funded by the taxpayer but we bring 100 immigrants in to do them? Of course if there were British citizens able and willing to do the work then it would be wrong. The points system that has been introduced, is supposely about only allowing-in people with key skills, in areas where there is a shortage. So the scenario you describe is an irrelevant one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Of course if there were British citizens able and willing to do the work then it would be wrong. The points system that has been introduced, is supposely about only allowing-in people with key skills, in areas where there is a shortage. So the scenario you describe is an irrelevant one. So if there are British citizens who are able but unwilling waht do you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 So if there are British citizens who are able but unwilling waht do you do? Hypothetical, there are people willing to in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Hypothetical, there are people willing to in this case. So in the hypothetical case what would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andikay Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Of course if there were British citizens able and willing to do the work then it would be wrong. The points system that has been introduced, is supposely about only allowing-in people with key skills, in areas where there is a shortage. So the scenario you describe is an irrelevant one. The points system doesn't include EU citizens, so it is relevant. I know someone from Latvia she would have preferred to stay and work in Latvia but came here because there are no jobs in Latvia, I wouldn't have had a problem with UK companies or councils creating work for her in Latvia where she would prefer to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 So in the hypothetical case what would you do? Not for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Not for this thread. Typical getout eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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