boyfriday Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 They were both dressed in similar ways. I have definitely heard blacks called gangsters but not chav. Sure this isn't just another excuse as to why we can use the term? Anyway like someone else said earlier, because it's something people can change does that give us more right to use the label? I'd not previously placed the term under such disciplined scrutiny Tony Erikson, the fact is there are arseholes of every colour, creed and race, whether you want to describe them as 'chavs' or 'gangsters' is entirely a matter for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Erikson Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I'd not previously placed the term under such disciplined scrutiny Tony Erikson, the fact is there are arseholes of every colour, creed and race, whether you want to describe them as 'chavs' or 'gangsters' is entirely a matter for you. Why not just arsehole? Why does an arsehole become different depending on race, wealth, or social background? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 A couple of years ago pupils at an exclusive public school in Scotland - Glenalmond made a spoof video about hunting chavs. Caused quite a stir at the time. Tally ho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D1WM7k2wtI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Erikson Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 A couple of years ago pupils at an exclusive public school in Scotland - Glenalmond made a spoof video about hunting chavs. Caused quite a stir at the time. Tally ho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D1WM7k2wtI Funny that. I didn't see any black, asian or middle class people. They all appeared like white working class to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkerSWFC Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 It doesn't matter if your pink green white or purple if your that way out you will sin, it's just that some races seem to do it more than others, if they didn't why do people bring the same sort of crims up time and time and time again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrneil Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Funny that. I didn't see any black, asian or middle class people. They all appeared like white working class to me. How do you know they were white working class? Their identifying appearance was on of bad sportswear and baseball caps. Given the origin of the video the participants were almost certainly upper or maybe upper middle class (in economic terms anyway) which sort of implies that "chav" is a descriptor of dress and behaviour rather than income bracket doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Erikson Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 How do you know they were white working class? Their identifying appearance was on of bad sportswear and baseball caps. Given the origin of the video the participants were almost certainly upper or maybe upper middle class (in economic terms anyway) which sort of implies that "chav" is a descriptor of dress and behaviour rather than income bracket doesn't it? How many middle class actually dress like that though? It's aspirational clothing aimed at the lower income bracket. I said they appeared by the way not were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrneil Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 How many middle class actually dress like that though? It's aspirational clothing aimed at the lower income bracket. I said they appeared by the way not were. What's aspirational about it? Surely aspirational clothing would be a suit and tie. And the fact that you could immediately identify them as "chav" despite them not being white working class still implies that it's a clothing/behaviour descriptor rather than a class/income one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkerSWFC Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 The chavs probably wonder why people with supposed more money dress like vicars and vicars wives and molicoddle there kid's to the extreme. Not to mention the fake acting these supposed higher class people produce when there out in public. Some of these people truly make me giggle to myself, i think to myself what is your kid going to turn out like acting like you are with them, wake up to the real world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Why not just arsehole? Why does an arsehole become different depending on race, wealth, or social background? I don't believe they do, that's why I said they exist in every persuasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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