rubydazzler Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Your hormones are playing up again Ruby... Can't you see how how contradictory and sexist you're being? How do you know how men think. Unless you're really a man?.. Its very sexist indeed..I don't have hormones! I'm a shrivelled, uppity crone, aren't I? That's why I'm asking ... my impression is the one I've posted. We need true life confessions of a Escort/Male Stripper ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ah, Mr Prime, but what if hollie11 isn't slim or limber enough to dance around a pole? We must have equality, being a minger shouldn't stop her from having the same advantages as her prettier sisters. After all her degree is going to cost her the same, she's not going to get a 'bulldog face' deduction, is she? Maybe there could be special clubs for the ugly people, or a bag on the head might suffice? She should have her chance to make shedloads of money taking her clothes off for money, I won't accept anything else for her. Or a club which has a blacked out window above the breast line and she could dance behind that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Try this one then - courtesy of Suffy - ''Playboy may not be as 'bad' as strip joints, lapdancing clubs etc, however, like lads' mags, Hooters and the like, it portrays the sexual objectification of women for male pleasure as harmless fun, totally normal and something that both women and men should buy into. This has a negative impact on all women.'' Is there any evidence to suggest this is actually a fact though, rather than just an opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I think she should wait until she can finance it another way, for the greater good. And her future prospects. That is my honest opinion, just from experience of life as we have to live it now, and probably in the foreseeable future. What gives you the right to dictate to people how they should earn there money or live there life? Whilever men are being allowed to retain the impression that whatever they want to do is perfectly reasonable and normal and just a bit of fun, we're going nowhere. Especially when there are women wanting to take advantage of them and reinforcing the stereotypes. Prostitution is the oldest profession, this is a much watered down version of that. So it is perfectly normal. (PS male prostitutes, strippers and probably bunnies exist as well as female ones). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Is there any evidence to suggest this is actually a fact though, rather than just an opinion? It is a theory rather than an opinion. Research in the States has been done to look at causal links between the consumption of porn (soft and hard) and sexual violence. The fact that various male 'pundits' have been wheeled out to debate with those in opposition to the new club have almost without exception all made the statement that it's harmless and fun supports this theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubydazzler Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Is there any evidence to suggest this is actually a fact though, rather than just an opinion?Cyclone, I'm so disappointed! I really thought you were going to reveal your secret life as an escort/stripper, when I saw your name come up directly after I asked for truelife confessions ... damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 did you actually read the question? I think you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. But actually, you know what, trying to debate sensible subjects with a lot of people who are so anxious to reinforce their own prejudices that they can't even read and follow the course of a thread, is a waste of my time. Enjoy having your conversation with yourself. Blaming women seems to be the men's game on here ... if you care to take off your blinkers. PS I hate being a pedant, but it's feminist ... No I can't see that I read it wrong at all. This was Frank Sidney's question: ....say a girls only means to pay for a university education was to dance at Spearmint Rhinos, would you accept that in circumstances like this she is doing the right thing and the men and women who pay to watch her are helping here achieve her aim?... And this was your reply: What degree is she doing? a mickey mouse So that seems to me you think anybody that gets a job as a stripper or lapdancer to get themselves through uni, is perhaps of a lower intelligence (and hence taking a Mickey Mouse course) than somebody that doesn't (possibly because they're from a wealthier background and don't need a job). Thanks for the correction of feminist though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ah, Mr Prime, but what if hollie11 isn't slim or limber enough to dance around a pole? We must have equality, being a minger shouldn't stop her from having the same advantages as her prettier sisters. After all her degree is going to cost her the same, she's not going to get a 'bulldog face' deduction, is she? Maybe there could be special clubs for the ugly people, or a bag on the head might suffice? She should have her chance to make shedloads of money taking her clothes off for money, I won't accept anything else for her. She might also be less smart than her fellow students. Or smarter and prettier. We aren't born equal, we all choose what we do with what life gives us. If I want to go and strip at hen do's then nobody would say that I'm harming the male rights movement and campaign to shut me down, why shouldn't women have the same freedom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubydazzler Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 What gives you the right to dictate to people how they should earn there money or live there life? Prostitution is the oldest profession, this is a much watered down version of that. So it is perfectly normal. (PS male prostitutes, strippers and probably bunnies exist as well as female ones). Are you actually reading the thread or just jumping in with both feet? Frank S set up a hypothetical (unlikely) situation and asked me for my honest opinion, I gave it. Aren't we entitled to an opinion anymore, unless it chimes with yours/the prevailing mood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 It is a theory rather than an opinion. Research in the States has been done to look at causal links between the consumption of porn (soft and hard) and sexual violence. The fact that various male 'pundits' have been wheeled out to debate with those in opposition to the new club have almost without exception all made the statement that it's harmless and fun supports this theory. Does it? Does it really? That sounds like about the weakest 'support' you could come up with. It's about as scientific as chem1sts economic theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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