truman Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Who says another 4 million people are to arrive in this country? I know it's not exactly what you meant but the ONS seem to think that there'll be 4.3 million more of us by 2018 http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1352 Wherever these people come from they'll still have to be housed etc etc... From another source Britain is projected to have the highest population in the EU by 2060... http://www.localfutures.com/Home/Our_Network/Intelligence/Future_Drivers/Demographics/default.aspx#Population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I know it's not exactly what you meant but the ONS seem to think that there'll be 4.3 million more of us by 2018 http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1352 Wherever these people come from they'll still have to be housed etc etc... Thanks truman I appreciate that, that's why I said to the poster the reasons for any new house building weren't entirely for the reason they offered-ie immigration. Not for that reason since they're not arriving in 'mass' numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Thanks truman I appreciate that, that's why I said to the poster the reasons for any new house building weren't entirely for the reason they offered-ie immigration. Hence my first sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Hence my first sentence But I wasn't in disagreement with you-new housing will have to be provided for an increasing population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 But I wasn't in disagreement with you-new housing will have to be provided for an increasing population. Oh I know..sorry I wasn't saying you did dis-agree... just pointing out what I meant.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Oh I know..sorry I wasn't saying you did dis-agree... just pointing out what I meant.. Right Im going to behave myself now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 So if another 4 million people are to arrive into this country, and we build no more houses - where will these people live? if there is nowhere to live perhaps they won't come ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Macbeth Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 And before peole say house prices go up at the same rate of earnings - NO CHANCE !!!! In 1999, you could have bought a house for £35,000. Someone earning £13000 per annun needed only 2.5 times there wages to buy a home. HOuse prices are easily £120,000 (the cheapest areas away from druggies and drunks), so thats a almost a 4 x increase. If the person earning £13,000 in 1999, is now earning £52,000 then, yes I agree house prices are rising at the same rate as pay So why does a first time buyer expect to start out with a house? A flat first then an upgrade, or an ex council house. Have you heard of 'gentrification'? Its when a rundown area attracts better off people who've been priced out of their preferred areas. They bring more money, and spend some of it doing up their homes/gardens which encourages others to move there. To the benefit of all usually. I thought I'd also point out that there is property in Sheffield much, much cheaper than £120k. http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/Sheffield.html?sortByPriceDescending=false&index=50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sues_budgie Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 if there is nowhere to live perhaps they won't come ? Or our young will be priced out of the housing market? out of the two, I can guess which will happen. After all, the governmnet are not too keen to help out our own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrneil Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 And before peole say house prices go up at the same rate of earnings - NO CHANCE !!!! In 1999, you could have bought a house for £35,000. Someone earning £13000 per annun needed only 2.5 times there wages to buy a home. You could have done but given that the average house price in Jan 2000 (earliest I could find) was 75,060 so would you really have wanted to live there!? It also changes your calculations somewhat - you would have needed 5.8 times your £13000 income to buy the average house. House prices are easily £120,000 (the cheapest areas away from druggies and drunks), so thats a almost a 4 x increase. If the person earning £13,000 in 1999, is now earning £52,000 then, yes I agree house prices are rising at the same rate as pay The current average house price is £167,208 so if you could get a 5.8 times mortgage you would need an income of just under 30K per annum to cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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