E-clips Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Violence does win through. The police thugs used it with great success at Orgreave. It was violence that won the day in the polltax demonstrations too. WW2 was won violently. It is silly to presume that violence does not pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 but they won more seats than the others so they still had a majority And they could have formed a government, albeit a minority one. There should not be a strike without a clear majority not a minor fluctuation. In your opinion; unfortunately for you, the law disagrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollierunner Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Hi Alchresearch You are right; I am referring to striking public sector workers and not those opposed to the strike and who are big enough to realise others are far worse off. I am not criticising people like yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 contracts get changed all the time....one footballer as had his ripped up...he was on 80 grand a week...now he is only on 40.....thats a loss of 2 million on the year... That is not changing a contract, that is sacking. You cannot change a contract without agreement on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I'm pretty confident that won't be the case tomorrow. It wasn't the violence that tipped the balance in the poll tax dispute anyway, or the miners would have won the 1984 strike, hands down. The moral argument was the source of the victory in the poll tax protests. I'm hoping that my union leaders can get that out, loud and clear tomorrow. There is a lot of background chatter to cut through first though. Just in case you were wondering, I know that you are trolling, but I thought you might like a sensible reply:) Probably not tomorrow but it's coming, whether it goes like Greece or not is a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 What do the public sector strikers hope to achieve? Do they think that by going on strike the government will magically find a big bag of money that will enable the taxpayer to fund their gold plated pensions and enable them to retire in their 50s? Just accept it, there's a financial downturn, we're all going to be worse off and will have to work longer for less, whether we're in the public or private sector. Yeah? Well how come we increased foreign aid? How come the MP gravy train is keeping rolling, what about their public pensions, how many of them actually need a pension whether a public one or not? It's a case of do as i say not do as I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Probably not tomorrow but it's coming, whether it goes like Greece or not is a different matter. If that prediction is anything like the rest of your predictions then it certainly won't be coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I just wish that I could meet a public sector worker who actually realises that he/she is in the mix with rest of us. They have very little credibility left these days, striking will put the final nail in their coffin. If it's a foregone conclusion that strikes won't solve anything, you won't mind if they striked then would you? Afterall, it would be their own fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 If that prediction is anything like the rest of your predictions then it certainly won't be coming. You'll have to sling your hook elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 You'll have to sling your hook elsewhere No hook, just reality. Every "prediction" like this that you've made since joining the forum hasn't happened, for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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