Fletch Posted December 18, 2003 Author Share Posted December 18, 2003 oh you were getting it from that ok i understand now. ive just started reading it im in new thread mode now hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venger Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 There is only a history to something if there is somome/thing to be conciously aware of a past of something, surely. No recognition, no history. But there would be ordered arrangement with or without intelligent life to qualify it, we just call it geography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Venger, you are way too smart for Fletch and me Way too smart We thought we were doing well dealing with the mice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Originally posted by venger There is only a history to something if there is somome/thing to be conciously aware of a past of something, surely. No recognition, no history. But there would be ordered arrangement with or without intelligent life to qualify it, we just call it geography. Similarly, there is only a geography to something if there is someone/thing to be consciously aware of its existence. Someone/thing to differentiate between, for instance, a mountain and a river. A nomenclature for geographic features otherwise they are all one. No cognition, no geography. But there would be ordered arrangement of time with or without intelligent life to qualify it, we just call it history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Dan Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Wow what a qulaity thread! I reckon that it's the definition that's wrong. Everything has a history, since it began, whatever it is, but what we refer to as history is actually a record of human achievement, certainly as far as schooling is concerned. Geography would have been around before humans (as pointed out by venger) so it must have come first. You can still have the history of a geological/geographical event, but it wouldn't be history on our terms. Or jut 42. Whichever you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted December 20, 2003 Author Share Posted December 20, 2003 Wow what a qulaity thread! Thanx Originally posted by Agent Dan Everything has a history, since it began, whatever it is, but what we refer to as history is actually a record of human achievement, certainly as far as schooling is concerned. [/b] But nobody wrote about the splitting of the continents and thats history. same with the dinosaurs. and neither are Geography, but its Geographys fault that history did that, so does that mean geography effects history or does history effect geography??? Fletch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Originally posted by Fletch But nobody wrote about the splitting of the continents and thats history. same with the dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were pre-history, weren't they? In other words, history hadn't started then. However, Dinosaurs moved around, so on there terms, Geography existed. Hence Geography came first. Now...chicken or egg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 I think that trying to play two badly defined areas of study of the world (philosophy) off against one another is pointless Geography and history are not things - they are both simply facets of the human endeavour to understand the world Geography is an academic subject that has a history, as does History the subject (What's the history of history called? I know) But the geography of the world (i.e all its geographic features and processes) does not have a history, it has a chronology or time line, which is different. Either way, you're looking at either Histo-Geography or Geo-History. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venger Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 They are both very different tough. Geography exists, we are surrounded by it. History will never exist. Although geography has a history Did someone say 42 Agent Dan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted December 20, 2003 Author Share Posted December 20, 2003 True Venger but parts of history are made by geography like where london was first placed there. and parts of geography are dependent on history like erm i cant think of one at the min can anyone else??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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