Harleyman Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Of course soldiers are young or maybe people think we should have an army made up of people aged 80+ years? Substitute wheelchairs for tanks and walking sticks for rifles and you have an army to be reckoned with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I've seen prisoners doing highway maintenance in Florida under supervision of the Florida Department of Corrections, simple jobs like cutting grass and picking up trash. I'm sure the state saves a bundle by doing this and they're not paying full time regular State employees salaries plus benefits to waste their time on such menial jobs. If this wasn't practical financially I dont think the State would bother with such a program Putting prisoners to work simply means someone else doesn't have a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Gobby Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 [/b Armies dont need dead bodies. Waste of money and training. The idea is to make dead bodies of the enemy twas a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Putting prisoners to work simply means someone else doesn't have a job. What kind of people would want to work at graffiti removal? You couldn't get the educated unemployed to do it and you couldn't make the uneducated unemployed do it either. They're law abiding citizens and have the rights of freedom and choice whereas prisoners dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andikay Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 What kind of people would want to work at graffiti removal? You couldn't get the educated unemployed to do it and you couldn't make the uneducated unemployed do it either. They're law abiding citizens and have the rights of freedom and choice whereas prisoners dont I don't think these people would agree with you. http://www.graffitiremovalltd.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 What kind of people would want to work at graffiti removal? People who think there is a profit to be made. And there are plenty of specialised, professional outfits that do make money from graffiti removal. How are they going to compete with what amounts to free indentured labour? Prisons will always be able to undercut legitimate businesses because they don't have to pay their staff, because their employees' daily needs for food shelter and housing are met by the taxpayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andikay Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 People who think there is a profit to be made. And there are plenty of specialised, professional outfits that do make money from graffiti removal. How are they going to compete with what amounts to free indentured labour? Prisons will always be able to undercut legitimate businesses because they don't have to pay their staff, because their employees' daily needs for food shelter and housing are met by the taxpayer. Problem is most of the graffiti bills are probably also met by the tax payer so it may as well be the cons or unemployed that clean it and we will save some money. Sorry just realised I’m on the wrong topic I thought I was on the Making people work! Rant. This is about teens in the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Save money, reduce jobs, increase unemployment, increase crime, privatise prisons. Can you see where it goes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Yes of course we do who else will be our cannon foder? In present times it should read , Yes of course we do who else will be our Improvised explosive device fodder. IED. As for teenagers in the armed forces, no. Same applies to the TA's or as they ought to be called "weekend soldiers", no, just more IED fodder. Regards Angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 People who think there is a profit to be made. And there are plenty of specialised, professional outfits that do make money from graffiti removal. How are they going to compete with what amounts to free indentured labour? Prisons will always be able to undercut legitimate businesses because they don't have to pay their staff, because their employees' daily needs for food shelter and housing are met by the taxpayer. Ask yourself. Who is mainly responsible for graffiti removal? Answer, the city governments, railways and buses. Most graffiti is done on walls on public streets, in public parks, public toilets, walls along railway embankments, bridges and on trains while parked in triage areas and in council flat buildings. Does it make sense for city governments (most of which today are in a budget deficit situation) and railway companies and bus service companies to hire a private contractor to do this work. A private contractor wishes to make a profit, he also has to pay his employees salaries, holiday pay and perhaps pension benefits also. He would submit a bid to to do the work which would cost the city, railways and bus service companies far more than if the work was done by prisoners who would get nothing. The only cost liability would be in buying the necessary chemicals and equipment to do the job. Labour costs totally eliminated. Taxpayers would benefit by not having the city raise taxes to pay for a major clean up program, likewise the saving would be equally beneficial to railway and bus service companies and perhaps eliminate the necessity to raise fares so frequently. The public would in fact be the main beneficiries in the long run while graffiti removal companies would find work removing graffiti from privately owned business premises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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