truman Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 :roll: I was not saying we should all become thieves what I was saying is that if there were no receivers then perhaps the scroats would try earning their money LEGITIMATELY What I was saying was that we don't all become thieves even though the receivers are there for us to use.....it's only the fault of the lad that he was in that place stealing ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 This is called natural selection in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denlin Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 there is still the market out there...at present its top dollar....do you really think the scrap firms are going to turn it away...nicked scrap and legit scrap...it all goes into the same melting pot....just one less scrapman to collect it...so more for the rest... Do you realise you're not only condoning theft but also saying it's ok to be a receiver. South Yorkshire Police watch this site. :nono: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denlin Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 What I was saying was that we don't all become thieves even though the receivers are there for us to use.....it's only the fault of the lad that he was in that place stealing ...... No he would not steal if he didn't have a buyer, the receiver is equally to blame. He was stealing it to sell on not to rewire his house with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 :roll: I was not saying we should all become thieves what I was saying is that if there were no receivers then perhaps the scroats would try earning their money LEGITIMATELY But thieves and receivers are one in the same, they both profit from others misery/loss. Or do you think receiving is any less than taking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 No he would not steal if he didn't have a buyer, the receiver is equally to blame. He was stealing it to sell on not to rewire his house with Still his decision to do it..his fault....if no-one stole there'd be no business for the receivers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denlin Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 But thieves and receivers are one in the same, they both profit from others misery/loss. Or do you think receiving is any less than taking? I don't think you've read my threads properly:roll: I was saying receivers are worse than thieves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I don't think you've read my threads properly:roll: I was sar=ying receivers are worse than thieves I never said you did, I was asking. Your argument fails because the receiver up until he/she receives is only complicit in the crime at the time of receiving. You could argue that if crime, or as in this case copper didn't exist in the same way receivers didn't exist, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The reality is both copper and crime does exist and always will do. You are responsible for your own actions, not the actions of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denlin Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I never said you did, I was asking. Your argument fails because the receiver up until he/she receives is only complicit in the crime at the time of receiving. You could argue that if crime, or as in this case copper didn't exist in the same way receivers didn't exist, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The reality is both copper and crime does exist and always will do. You are responsible for your own actions, not the actions of others. That's not entirely true. If the thieves had nowhere to sell their stolen goods what would they do with them? The receivers incite the thieves by being willing to buy the goods. Crime exists but needs stamping out, it's not right or fair on those on the receiving end ie the law abiding citizens:D:help: It's out of control:roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 The ultimate punishment is death. You'd think that would be enough to put people off! Never stopped people in the victorian era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.