CXC3000 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 How much interferance do Western governments have in places like Sudan, Nigeria and tonnes of other African countries? More than you'd like to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 But what about in an uncivilised society, populated by people who will only respond to brutal punishment, not to our soft and ineffective so-called sentencing? I still find it barbaric. I don't believe that victims of crime should play any role in determining punishments for a crime committed against them, that is retribution not justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Slightly off topic but there's nowhere else to post, the Norway thread being closed. Just for info an interesting article by MP today.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020924/Anders-Behring-Breivik-Liberals-hell-bent-bullying-silence.html It's Melanie 'Sour Face' Phillips for god's sake-she makes Richard Littlejohn look like CXC3000! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CXC3000 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 It's Melanie 'Sour Face' Phillips for god's sake-she makes Richard Littlejohn look like CXC3000! :hihi: ------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1love Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 An eye for an eye is the best way forward. Some of us know the feeling of having our personal items stolen, what better way then having their hands cut off they definately wont be out on rob again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 It's Melanie 'Sour Face' Phillips for god's sake-she makes Richard Littlejohn look like CXC3000! Perhaps she is one of the few public figures who is prepared to speak openly about the incompatibilities between Islam and Western liberalism? It's the elephant in the room that too many are fearful of confronting. We witness the excoriation of those who condemn practices associated with Islam on here daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CXC3000 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Perhaps she is one of the few public figures who is prepared to speak openly about the incompatibilities between Islam and Western liberalism? It's the elephant in the room that too many are fearful of confronting. We witness the excoriation of those who condemn practices associated with Islam on here daily. Leave Islam and Muslims alone, and they'll do the same. Stop provoking and attacking them for no other reason than for their Belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Leave Islam and Muslims alone, and they'll do the same. Stop provoking and attacking them for no other reason than for their Belief. If I don't like something and find it abhorrent, whatever its provenance, do I not have a right to criticise it, or at the very least, open up a debate about it? What about the actions of the Norwegian nutter? Is it OK to condemn him because he's not associated with Islam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Perhaps she is one of the few public figures who is prepared to speak openly about the incompatibilities between Islam and Western liberalism? It's the elephant in the room that too many are fearful of confronting. We witness the excoriation of those who condemn practices associated with Islam on here daily. Well her extreme views aren't confined to Islam alone, she plays to the gallery just like other reactionary journalists although her views on Islam might enjoy some credibility if she wasn't such an ardent advocate of her own religion-Judaism. Jewish writers such as David Aaronvitch articulate on Islam sensibly without the sensational and hateful rhetoric that Phillips so often employs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I still find it barbaric. I don't believe that victims of crime should play any role in determining punishments for a crime committed against them, that is retribution not justice.If somebody had done something appalling to me, I'd want retribution (though I'd wait untiul they finished going through the justice system before I delivered it ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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