plekhanov Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Classic version of clutching at straws or splitting hairs to defend a lost cause. All that link does it list countries that the USSR sold or gave weapons to. It in now way substantiates your clam that US aid to Israel is: "A fraction of the aid/arms supplied by the Soviet Bloc to all the surrounding Arab states" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I believe this does... I'm only half following, wasn't looking at dates... Does this show what you mean? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...n_military_aid Satisfied or do you want serial numbers as well? What I'd like is evidence to back your claim. Does that link have a measure of the value of this Soviet aid? Does it state the value of US aid to Israel? You know very well that it provides neither adn as such completely fails to provide evidence for your initial claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chorba Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Crack open a beer A halal beer then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_words Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Where exactly in your link does it state that the value of Soviet aid to Arab nations completely dwarfs US aid to Israel? Your source isn't even restricted to aid but "the sale or provision of weapons." This is a bit more specific... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf23.html I've only read points 1 and 2... But! Also note that it's a Jewish website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 All that link does it list countries that the USSR sold or gave weapons to. It in now way substantiates your clam that US aid to Israel is: "A fraction of the aid/arms supplied by the Soviet Bloc to all the surrounding Arab states" Bassman is totting up all the weapons supplied to ALL the Arab nations as one, as an argument that Israel receives less as an individual nation. Using that logic he may as well add nations that are non Arabic and lump them in too, to distort his figures? even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 This is a bit more specific... http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf23.html I've only read points 1 and 2... But! Also note that it's a Jewish website... jewishvirtuallibrary.org is a zionist propaganda site far more interested in spreading myths that debunking them. You could hardly find a less reliable source if you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Bassman is totting up all the weapons supplied to ALL the Arab nations as one, as an argument that Israel receives less as an individual nation. Using that logic he may as well add nations that are non Arabic and lump them in too, to distort the figures even further. He isn't even doing that he's simply saying "these nations received arms" and simply assuming that the value of those arms completely dwarfs those given to Israel with no information at all about what arms each side received. He hasn't got any figures to "tot up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAKS4 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 We are really on about India yes? No! The title clearly says Pakistan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_words Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 No! The title clearly says Pakistan! Mmmm, that place I call India... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 He isn't even doing that he's simply saying "these nations received arms" and simply assuming that the value of those arms completely dwarfs those given to Israel with no information at all about what arms each side received. He hasn't got any figures to "tot up". Well, there are two sets of figures. Bassmans and factual...we're running with bassmans "figures" at mo. Frustrating as that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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