truman Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 So you believe that population predictions are pointless in a thread about population numbers. It's not the strongest argument is it? It wasn't the strongest prediction...and if it was right it still doesn't mean we could cope with that number...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Nothing really to do with immigration How did you come across the idea there are less buses on the road nowadays? What does it matter? Busses have nothing to do with immigration. It was a silly point made earlier and has nothing to do with what people are talking about. You've even said so yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyhill Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 How did you come to this conclusion? Prove me wrong if you can but I bet there was not a bus every 5 minutes to town when my granddad was a kid like there is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinnwok Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 So you believe that population predictions are pointless in a thread about population numbers. It's not the strongest argument is it? A prediction from 1960 has no value. What context is there? Today we in this nation have 1 million British youth unemployed. Could we have a more clear indication that this nation is full? 1 million illegal immigrants. and at least 5 million other immigrants:rant: We are full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Today we in this nation have 1 million British youth unemployed. Could we have a more clear indication that this nation is full? Non-sequitur, again. You like these, don't you? 1 million unemployed means we need 1 million job opportunities for young people, not that we are full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karis Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 What does it matter? Busses have nothing to do with immigration. It was a silly point made earlier and has nothing to do with what people are talking about. You've even said so yourself. It was only a silly point because you think it is. However, I see the effects of immigration every single day on buses, which have, in a surprisingly short space of time, become filled with people of every nation. But, by all means, keep sticking your head in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 The problem we have here is that we're arguing the wrong thing. For the country to "be full" there needs to be a finite amount of something. A hotel with 100 rooms and 100 guests is full. A bus with 100 seats and 100 passengers is full. To fill a country we have to work out what the finite thing is that we no longer have. Land? Plenty of that left. Work, Houses? They can be created. Health and infrastructure can all be expanded. If you want do discuss the negatives of immigration, and they do exist, then do so, but to say "we are full" is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyhill Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Non-sequitur, again. You like these, don't you? 1 million unemployed means we need 1 million job opportunities for young people, not that we are full. It depends what you class as full there is still 'space left' but if there are no jobs available, the NHS is already pushed to its limit along with the police and many other public servant sectors. So allowing more and more people into the country with out solving the problem that we already have things are just going to get worse and worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 The problem we have here is that we're arguing the wrong thing. For the country to "be full" there needs to be a finite amount of something. A hotel with 100 rooms and 100 guests is full. A bus with 100 seats and 100 passengers is full. To fill a country we have to work out what the finite thing is that we no longer have. Land? Plenty of that left. Work, Houses? They can be created. Health and infrastructure can all be expanded. If you want do discuss the negatives of immigration, and they do exist, then do so, but to say "we are full" is stupid. You could quite easily say "At the moment we are full"..doesn't mean we can't take more in the future...but at present we seem to be near capacity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Prove me wrong if you can but I bet there was not a bus every 5 minutes to town when my granddad was a kid like there is now So your evidence is based upon nothing more than assumptions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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