Speed Camera's - Cash Cows.

[metalman]

Article in today's Star here.

 

Looks as though whether cameras reduce accidents or increase them is a bit, er... hit and miss, if you'll excuse the pun. From which you might conclude that they don't really do anything at all: in some places accidents decrease and in others they increase, and the same would be true of places without cameras too. Probably the thing you can say is that the number of serious accidents isn't really large enough to draw any statistically valid conclusions either way.

 

Comment 5 on the Star site makes a valid point though - given that cameras were (at least originally) meant to be installed at accident blackspots, how is it that in several of the sites there were no accidents at all before they were installed?

[GrapeApe]

Article in today's Star here.

 

Looks as though whether cameras reduce accidents or increase them is a bit, er... hit and miss, if you'll excuse the pun. From which you might conclude that they don't really do anything at all: in some places accidents decrease and in others they increase, and the same would be true of places without cameras too. Probably the thing you can say is that the number of serious accidents isn't really large enough to draw any statistically valid conclusions either way.

 

Comment 5 on the Star site makes a valid point though - given that cameras were (at least originally) meant to be installed at accident blackspots, how is it that in several of the sites there were no accidents at all before they were installed?

 

Not very scientific though.

[convert]

Not very scientific though.

 

Neither was the placement of speed cameras... more economic.

[alchresearch]

There's a non-active camera on a road near me, it can be a bit of a bottleneck as its narrow with parked cars on one side and a couple of busy side roads with blind junctions.

 

I've seen two accidents in 18 months there and most people do 40 because the road comes off the motorway and is a 60 limit until it reaches the built up area where it drops to a 30.

 

Last month they switched the camera back on and there's been local outrage from people being caught. However, before it did come back on a mobile van was operating there at random intervals and people didn't feel the need to vent their rage and anger at that.

 

Is it because the catcher is automated that causes so much anger?

[Lucifer]

Slow down and don’t feed the cow ……………… sorted.

 

Yuor not old enough to speeeeeed .

[donkey7159]

Warning a drunk driver to go another way because there are police ahead -- would you find that acceptable?

 

Warning other drivers of an upcoming cah collector( speed camera van) is an unwritten rule of the road. Every driver knows there is one of these vans lurking up the road when flashed by other motorists. Long may it continue .

 

Most drivers will flash other motorists to warn them of the danger up the road ( speed camera van),and i fully support it and do it myself EVERY time i pass one of these things. I see it as my duty to other motorists .

[donkey7159]

Cameras in sheffield are failing to cut accidents according to offical figures released today . So id love to hear the pro camera mob defend them. These offical figures just go to show these cameras are nothing more than revenue generators.

 

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/are_they_worth_it_sheffield_speed_cameras_failing_to_cut_accidents_1_3715472

[SnailyBoy]

Cameras in sheffield are failing to cut accidents according to offical figures released today . So id love to hear the pro camera mob defend them. These offical figures just go to show these cameras are nothing more than revenue generators.

 

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/are_they_worth_it_sheffield_speed_cameras_failing_to_cut_accidents_1_3715472

 

Or from an alternate viewpoint

 

Cameras save lives

 

'The biggest positive difference achieved by speed cameras has been on the A616 Stocksbridge Bypass where there were 36 accidents where people were killed or seriously injured between 1990 and 2002, but only nine after average speed cameras were installed in 2002.'

[donkey7159]

Or from an alternate viewpoint

 

Cameras save lives

 

'The biggest positive difference achieved by speed cameras has been on the A616 Stocksbridge Bypass where there were 36 accidents where people were killed or seriously injured between 1990 and 2002, but only nine after average speed cameras were installed in 2002.'

 

So , taking that a lot of these cameras have failed in their so called objective of reducing accidents , would you not agree these should now be removed from the roads .?

 

to leave these failing cameras in place ,would only add further proof that they are there purely to raise revenue. Thats if you believe the offical line:suspect: that they are there for "SAFETY" reasons only.

[Cyclone]

Or from an alternate viewpoint

 

Cameras save lives

 

'The biggest positive difference achieved by speed cameras has been on the A616 Stocksbridge Bypass where there were 36 accidents where people were killed or seriously injured between 1990 and 2002, but only nine after average speed cameras were installed in 2002.'

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean

 

Or maybe some camera's are really appropriate and do work, but that doesn't seem to be the case for the vast majority.