TimmyR Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'm confised...what does this mean from the gov. web site? "Car driving licence first obtained since 1 January 1997 Drivers who passed a car test on or after 1 January 1997 are required to pass an additional driving test in order to gain entitlement to category B+E and all larger vehicles." Doesn't it mean that if you passed after '97 then you need another test to be able to tow? No, it means you have to pass an additional test to drive a category B vehicle with a category E trailer. B includes "Motor vehicles with a MAM of up to 3,500 kg, no more than eight passenger seats, with or without a trailer - weighing no more than 750 kg" So if you want to pull a trailer > 750kg (an E) you need to pass an additional test. See here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/WhatCanYouDriveAndYourObligations/DG_4022547 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonjon Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 No, it means you have to pass an additional test to drive a category B vehicle with a category E trailer. B includes "Motor vehicles with a MAM of up to 3,500 kg, no more than eight passenger seats, with or without a trailer - weighing no more than 750 kg" So if you want to pull a trailer > 750kg (an E) you need to pass an additional test. See here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/WhatCanYouDriveAndYourObligations/DG_4022547 No you can pull a trailer and vehicle combo upto 3500kgs MAM, if the vehicle pulling the trailer has a kerb weight more than the trailer. They worded it very badly. There are 2 cat B's I believe they changed the cat b's as last time I read them i'm sure one was you can tow an unbrake trailer upto 750kgs and the 2nd cat b said you can to a braked trailer upto a total MAM of 3500kgs. Example of category B with a trailer weighing over 750 kg: Motor vehicle with an unladen weight of 1,500 kg and a maximum weight of 2,000 kg towing a fully loaded trailer with a weight of 1,500 kg – total weight 3500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Seems to me I need to take the test and buy a Discovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Back in the early to mid 80s I towed this boat with inboard diesel engine 3 times back and forth from Sheffield to a harbour near Newton Stewart (SW Scotland) and Sheffield. I stripped all the ballast and anything that could be unbolted but even then it was about 2 ton (with trailer), the boat was 21ft and the trailer 24ft. The first tow car was the Cortina GXL, a bad choice as it had a sports cam but that was all we could afford. The next trip was with an L reg Volvo estate which was much better, and the last trip was with my 1500 Maxi which was a good tow car, although I had to come off the M62 at Huddersfield as it was snowing on the motorway, in fact coming over Shap on the M6 we were down to one clear lane! A maximum of 40mph was sustained and the steepest hills encounted were on the motorway, except when having to go through Huddersfield back to Sheffield. http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv12/carosio/Boat.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 A mondeo can tow 2000-2200kgs. The HY would weigh in at a max of 1900-2000kgs. Mondeo weighs 1500 kg. 3.5t max then. Could I drive this on a cat B licence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT70 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 A mondeo can tow 2000-2200kgs. The HY would weigh in at a max of 1900-2000kgs. Mondeo weighs 1500 kg. 3.5t max then. Could I drive this on a cat B licence? its more to do with a safe sensible towing limit, irrespective of what the car will pull as a maximum. i've towed with mondeos, pug 405 diesels, bmw530d and have currently got a santa fe 4x4, they really are much better than any of the former if you are pulling a decent weight, they can easily pull 2-2.3tonnes, but working with the recommended 80% safe rule will still pull a fair old weight. the santa fe has a min kerb weight of 1700kg and a max of 2300kg, but doesnt feel like it when you drive, very nimble. can tow 2300kg and with ease, my combo weighs about 2000kg and will sit at 60mph all day. it will do 30mpg or more towing on a run, and 40+mpg unladen. they were tow car of the year in 2003/2004 if i remember and ranked very highly in the jd power reliability scores. i was recommended one for towing and havent looked back. (other than for reversing boom boom!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 seems to be a good choice !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 Alternatively I am possibly thinking of a modern engine and running gear in the van? Any recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT70 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Alternatively I am possibly thinking of a modern engine and running gear in the van? Any recommendations? depends on how handy you are with the spanners and wiring, or if you know anyone who is? fitting a modern engine will need some handy work with the original ecu and wiring to make it work in a different shell, or the ability to fit an aftermarket ecu if not and get that working ok. its all doable, however you will never get the money back you spend doing so, and insurance will no doubt rise, you will also prob need an independant engineers report once completed to satisfy the dvla and insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 depends on how handy you are with the spanners and wiring, or if you know anyone who is? fitting a modern engine will need some handy work with the original ecu and wiring to make it work in a different shell, or the ability to fit an aftermarket ecu if not and get that working ok. its all doable, however you will never get the money back you spend doing so, and insurance will no doubt rise, you will also prob need an independant engineers report once completed to satisfy the dvla and insurance. I'd have to pay a specialist. There is a good citroen specialist down south: http://www.citroenclassics.co.uk/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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