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Assuming Britain actually is a secular country- can it remain so?


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It isn't illegal to enter into a polygamous marriage. You could return to this country with 6 wives and live with them perfectly legally. All British law prevents you from doing is conducting the services here.

 

There is, at that, nothing to prevent someone from having one legal marriage and three or four "unofficial" and not legally binding weddings to his other "wives."

 

In English law, such a man would be considered to have one wife and three mistresses, all living with him. It's polygamy in all but name.

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There is, at that, nothing to prevent someone from having one legal marriage and three or four "unofficial" and not legally binding weddings to his other "wives."

 

In English law, such a man would be considered to have one wife and three mistresses, all living with him. It's polygamy in all but name.

Very true. And perfectly legal.
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It isn't illegal to enter into a polygamous marriage. You could return to this country with 6 wives and live with them perfectly legally. All British law prevents you from doing is conducting the services here.

 

The 1988 Immigration Act plugged that particular loophole, so the problem to which you allude can only 'benefit' men who brought their 'wives' into the UK before then, who are most probably now well past child bearing age.

 

If a bloke wants to have it off with a load of birds and call them his 'wives' then that's his business..in fact many of our political elite have almost made a career out of it, so I wouldn't point the finger too crudely at Muslims.

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Britain is; to all intents and purposes- "a secular society", is it not?. But can a secular society such as ours realistically remain secular?

 

Despite Christianity being the largest of the religions, it is closely followed by the fasting growing religion- Islam.

 

Isn't it just a matter of time before Britain succumbs to religious ruling? Islamic most probably since those of muslim faith that originate from africa and the middle east do tend to have much larger families than muslims from other regions not, not to mention none muslim and none religious.

 

This isn't a Bible bashing or Anti Islam post either before anyone asks, It's simply a straight forward question based on observation.

 

The UK has a state religion, which makes it fairly unique... It feels secular though, as very few people really are very religious these days, and the number of those who don't believe increases every year... So, in answer to the question you pose, we currently are not a secular country, but there is a time coming when we shall be... Islam offers nothing to to the picture, as many of those whose families do/did believe do not themselves, and this is shown by the young people from muslim families who are out drinking etc, same as others from other backgrounds...

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..and it's self evident. Polygamy is illegal in this country, the fact some such relationships benefit from a previous jurisdiction doesn't mean that new polygamous relationships would do.

 

To extend the logic, it's illegal to drive a 3 litre private car without a vehicle excise license, would you agree?..but vehicles manufactured before 1973 are exempt.

 

I like the car analogy, I was thinking of trading our lass in for a newer model :hihi:

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Can we remain secular? That depends if we continue to allow the enforcement of religious practice on non-followers. Halal meat for example, by way of prevelance now in the food chain, is a religious practice being forced on us all.

 

Imagine, if some Christian Sect hired clergy to be based at a handful Yorkshire Water filtration plants blessing the water as it flows through, so that some of the water coming out of Yorkshire household's taps was Holy Water. What if they were based at different water filtration plants each week and we were not told which, so we'd never know if we were drinking Holy Water or not, pretty much the situation with Halal meat. Most of us would have no choice of this religious practice being forced on us. Just as with Halal, if you specifically wanted to avoid the Holy Water because you don't wish to be forced to conform to a religion you do not believe in, you'd instead have to go out of your way to ensure you bought non-Holy Water, or go to another county.

 

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Can we remain secular? That depends if we continue to allow the enforcement of religious practice on non-followers. Halal meat for example, by way of prevelance now in the food chain, is a religious practice being forced on us all.

 

Imagine, if some Christian Sect hired clergy to be based at a handful Yorkshire Water filtration plants blessing the water as it flows through, so that some of the water coming out of Yorkshire households taps was Holy Water. What if they were based at different water filtration plants each week and we were not told which, so we'd never know if we were drinking Holy Water or not, pretty much the situation with Halal meat. Most of us would have no choice of this religious practice being forced on us. Just as with Halal, if you specifically wanted to avoid the Holy Water because you don't wish to be forced to conform to a religion you do not believe in, you'd instead have to go out of your way to ensure you bought non-Holy Water.

 

That's a good analogy, which is why any religiously slaughtered meat should be clearly labelled as such. Personally I don't give a monkey's where it's come from but appreciate many people will do.

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