danot Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 I think probably deduce that you were a harmless eccentric or out to make a political point and decide there wasn't anything worth arresting you over - or if you were aggressive and shouty about it they might do you for behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace. Since wearing it isn't illegal yes, i think you'd be within your rights to refuse to take it off (provided you weren't in the bank or the passport control at the airport). It might, but they'd be wrong to do so. Yes I think it would. I don't think so, since you wouldn't be committing an offence. What's your point with all this? It's three inches actually. People who wear veils or carry Kirpals are subject to restriction; people can be asked to uncover their faces for security purposes such as at the bank or airport. I'm sure people with Kirpals are asked to remove then in some circumstances too. What I still fail to understand is why all this bothers you so much - if people have an innocent reason for carrying a knife be they you or me or Mr Singh down the road, we don't have a problem. If the police suspect we don't have a good reason for carrying one, we may be arrested. If Mr Singh were to use his Kirpal to threaten anyone or to commit a robbery he'd be arrested. No problem. If a woman chooses to wear a burqa, there's no real reason to suspect she's up to no good in the absence of any other evidence. It's not illegal. If you choose to wear your balaclava on a hot day the police may well want to ask you why, but provided you have no malicious intent, no problem. What's wrong with any of that? I don't think we should debate this any further on this thread, we've been requested not to already. I'm willing to debate further on another thread though to prevent any action being taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 If the police were to stop me in the street to ask why I always wear a balaclava, would you expect them to accept that I just like wearing balaclava's and bid me good day, or would you expect them to kindly request that I take it off before sending me on my way? I think the police would realise that the balaclava is named after the Battle of Balaclava during the Crimea War when British, French and troops from the Muslim Ottoman Empire fought together. The police would therefore think you were tolerant of Muslim immigration and of European co-operation and beat you up for being an unpatriotic do-gooder. And the rest of us would have a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 I think the police would realise that the balaclava is named after the Battle of Balaclava during the Crimea War when British, French and troops from the Muslim Ottoman Empire fought together. The police would therefore think you were tolerant of Muslim immigration and of European co-operation and beat you up for being an unpatriotic do-gooder. And the rest of us would have a good laugh. Which I'd report to PCC. ya bunch a bala-bashers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPat Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Not if it's obvious from the style of dress that your face is covered for religious, cultural or safety reasons. That's self evident isn't it? Can a motorcyclist not be an armed robber as well as a biker? Can a burqa wearer not be a terrorist as well as a muslim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John X Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Can a motorcyclist not be an armed robber as well as a biker? In a tiny number of cases, yes. Can a burqa wearer not be a terrorist as well as a muslim? In an even smaller number of cases, yes. John X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 In a tiny number of cases, yes. In an even smaller number of cases, yes. John X And how on earth would you know that? Not all Muslim terrorists blow themselves up you know. Some just orchestrate terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John X Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 And how on earth would you know that? Not all Muslim terrorists blow themselves up you know. Some just orchestrate terrorism. ??? John X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 ??? John X ??? exactly. That's like telling us that Muslim kids that dress-up when trick-or-treating get up to less mischief than none Muslim kids. How would you know who's who when their identities are concealed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John X Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 How would you know who's who when their identities are concealed? You wouldn't! John X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 You wouldn't! John X Then Britpat made his point didn't he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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