Incident in Hillsborough 13/9/11

[yummymummy88]

Wow this has turned into yet another staffy bashing thread. Before any one asks I am not a staffy owner nor have I ever owned one. I grew up with my family fostering animals, mainly dogs but we had all sorts. I have been bitten by a dalmation and a husky any dog can and will bite. The husky that bit me was my dog that I bought myself from a breeder and was a very placid dog I just took him by surprise one day and he turned and snapped at me. I have also fostered a bichon frise who was quite snappy. Ive seen people bitten by Gordon setters, Basset hounds and cross breeds. There are loads of staffy type dogs. Go to any rescue centre and they are over run so of course there will be more people bitten by this type of dogs simply because there are more of them around. If we were over run with any type of dogs they too would be seen as being a problem because they would make up most of the bad animal press.

[helhol]

just to let you know, pit bulls are a different breed than staffies, same as english bulls are , all dogs should be socialised from early age, and treated as member of the family not a guard dog , i used to take my staffie everywhere with me and my children, she would walk off lead, be obedient, walk on lead with the kids holding it, she was a 'family member' even go to ice cream van and get one free from him every day . yes people have been attacked by the odd one or two staffies but other breads have attacked people too but it only seems to be the bull terrier attacks that make media news more than other breeds(because of peoples ignorance with the breed) oh and to let you know i lived next door to a pub in leicester when the 2 rotweillers killed baby cadey-lee deacon and all of a sudden rotweillers were seen as the devil dog too in the media, ps, i am not a chav either and my dog never warranted a smack, it is how you raise them and treat with respect, i stand by my earlier comment, i trust them 100%

[helhol]

one more thing, a wolf is a wild animal too, but i know someone in leicester who 10 years ago bought a wolf cub legally from america , as a family pet, it has lived through 3 of owners children and has never had an issue with visiousness, obviously it is the upbringing, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cyclone]

Nobody is claiming that all Staffies are viscous killers, but neither does the fact that some are not prove that the breed does not have aggressive tendencies.

 

The evidence suggests that they do. So whilst in the hands of a competent owner they may make a good pet, in the hands of an incompetent one they are more likely than other dogs to become vicious.

[mrseggy]

Have heard that this poor dog died of the injuries , info was given second hand but i have no reason to believe that its not true.

 

As for everyone saying its how you bring them up, well this in part is very true, however breeding also has a massive impact on this. Sadly staffie's are often being bread by idiots that will purposely breed 2 aggressive dog and not give two hoots where the off spring end up. Staffs are often not KC registered and therefore there is no guarantee that the dog is not interbread.

[Zepp]

I'd rather not be savaged at all thank you

 

Of course you wouldn't, who would? People don't choose to be attacked by animals.

 

But if you were attacked by a dog, wouldn't you rather be attacked by a chiuaua than a staffy?

[0742Sheff]

This is a US study, but I doubt that there's any material difference between a US dog and a UK one.

 

 

Is that evidence enough?

 

 

There is a huge difference Cyclone. The American staffie is totally different to the UK staffie. It is much closer related to the American pit bull. You can get a rough idea by comparing this picture of an American staffie and this traditional UK staffy. Unfortinately the American staffie is still widely used as a guard dog and any vicious traits retained to aid in guarding drugs dens, people and the like.

[moke]

There is a huge difference Cyclone. The American staffie is totally different to the UK staffie. It is much closer related to the American pit bull. You can get a rough idea by comparing this picture of an American staffie and this traditional UK staffy. Unfortinately the American staffie is still widely used as a guard dog and any vicious traits retained to aid in guarding drugs dens, people and the like.

 

to be fair, the main difference between those images is that the american dog has had it's ears 'cropped' to make it look more like a guard dog, which is illegal in the uk for domestic pets and most breeds.

[0742Sheff]

Of course you wouldn't, who would? People don't choose to be attacked by animals.

 

But if you were attacked by a dog, wouldn't you rather be attacked by a chiuaua than a staffy?

 

I am glad you used the Chiuaua in your example. Just a few weeks ago i posted on here about being attacked by Chiuaua's multiple times over two days. That eventually leveled out at 5 attacks in one week, all but one by the same dog and same stupid owner. I have never had a staffie even snarl at me.

 

I can see where you are coming from but you may as well have said Rhodesian Ridgeback (the last fatal dog attack i happened to read about).

[0742Sheff]

to be fair, the main difference between those images is that the american dog has had it's ears 'cropped' to make it look more like a guard dog, which is illegal in the uk for domestic pets and most breeds.

 

That was my fear in posting the images. I knew people would only see the ears and not the differences in the dog itself. This is why so many blame staffies for everything. They simply don't know the difference. Not saying anything about your observations there moke. It was aimed at people in general.