Phanerothyme Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Yes, of course it's down to the rate of tax. But that wasn't the point. Amsterdam has legalised cannabis use, I don't know if they grow it commercially or not, but either way it's cheaper than here isn't it... If you think legalising something would put the price up then you've not really grasped the economics of prohibition. I think Amsterdam is a bit of a red herring, as it's not legal there either, more of an extended Lambeth experiment in decrim - which is just tinkering and not really solving anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublesix Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 It's all hypothetical anyway, for if the tax on legal cannabis was that bad that it was putting the trade back in the hands of criminals then the tax could be lowered. There is an easy solution. Do you mean like they have done with beer and fags..the black market there is still flourishing ....you ought to check your foot for bullet holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Do you mean like they have done with beer and fags..the black market there is still flourishing .... I'm willing to bet that it is minute when compared to the money that regulated alcohol makes. I've never drunk any bootlegged hooch my entire life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Do you mean like they have done with beer and fags..the black market there is still flourishing ....you ought to check your foot for bullet holes. I don't recall the tax on cigarettes and alcohol ever going down. Definitely up. But not down. How's that foot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Do you mean like they have done with beer and fags..the black market there is still flourishing ....you ought to check your foot for bullet holes. What is this black market for alcohol... How can anyone undercut cider at 50p/litre from Asda? If cheap is what it's all about anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I think Amsterdam is a bit of a red herring, as it's not legal there either, more of an extended Lambeth experiment in decrim - which is just tinkering and not really solving anything. Ah okay, wasn't really sure of the status or how the supply actually reaches their cafe's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Ah okay, wasn't really sure of the status or how the supply actually reaches their cafe's... It's illegally imported. Which makes the whole thing a bit pointless if you ask me. What they did show was that if you give people back responsibility for themselves instead of nannying them, drug use overall decreases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 Don't be crazy, or at least do some research. How much does it cost in Amsterdam? I'd hazard a guess that it's cheaper than here in the UK. Very very few, because there is hardly any black market. With tobacco the 'black market' only exists because other european countries have lower rates of tax on it[ When being searched for the 4th time after coming back to the UK from Amsterdam, I told customs how I couldn't wait to get back to Sheffield for the cheaper and better herbal/skunk! The hashish in the Netherlands is far superior though, you don't see it that often in the UK. The lower quality stuff you do, and it is cheaper over here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Umpley Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 i thought u was allowed to grow a certain amount? hehe you are. that certain amount = Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 Take the duty off beer ,tobacco and fuel how much are you paying for the actual product ? I don't think many Englishmen could (off the top of the heads), tell you the duty on beer from x, cigs from y and baccy from z (xyz being foreign countries - and yes people do sell imported beer on the black market), and the duty on red diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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