A new class issue?

[erebus]

The UK now is in the process of re-creating the class system.

 

1) The Super rich, as in millions to billions

 

2) The working class _ those actually in employment of some kind or another

 

3) the scapegoats - scum, unemployed, lazy, immigrants, work-shy, the pensionable old, those in care awaiting death, the so called sick, criminals, and such.

 

 

It is the redefining of the middle class, through wage freezing, threat of unemployment and social exclusion, mainly to what was once mainly working class areas. Having a job is the new key to being middle class.

 

 

Have anyone else noticed this subtle shift through social engineering?

[muddycoffee]

Rich has nothing to do with class. There are plenty of working class origin super rich with no actual "class" at all. Just consider all the premiership footballers who have embarrased themselves and their employers with their drunken misbehaviour.

[Goon]

Rich has nothing to do with class. There are plenty of working class origin super rich with no actual "class" at all. Just consider all the premiership footballers who have embarrased themselves and their employers with their drunken misbehaviour.

 

You could also consider the large majority of premiership footballers from humble origins who handle themselves with great dignity.

[muddycoffee]

You could also consider the large majority of premiership footballers from humble origins who handle themselves with great dignity.

 

 

My point exactly. There are also a great deal of working class people who are extremely dignified and behave in a decent manner all their lives. They may not rise up the british class structure but they certainly earn respect from others.

[Anna B]

The UK now is in the process of re-creating the class system.

 

1) The Super rich, as in millions to billions

 

2) The working class _ those actually in employment of some kind or another

 

3) the scapegoats - scum, unemployed, lazy, immigrants, work-shy, the pensionable old, those in care awaiting death, the so called sick, criminals, and such.

 

 

It is the redefining of the middle class, through wage freezing, threat of unemployment and social exclusion, mainly to what was once mainly working class areas. Having a job is the new key to being middle class.

 

 

Have anyone else noticed this subtle shift through social engineering?

 

Yes it has been mentioned. And by those who saw it coming even before the 'credit crunch.'

But still there are those who just can't see it until it snacks them in the face.

 

Has anyone actually ever worked out what % of the super rich, ie billionaires at least, are from truely humble working class backgrounds? Very small indeed I suspect. but another fact of this manipulation is that every poor boy made good is known about and publicised to the rafters, whereas the seriously wealthy prefer to hide behind a labarynth of companies, conglomerates and chief execs keeping their identities out of the media as far as possible. But they are doing a serious amount of hoovering up of our cash.

[erebus]

My real point was that the term middle class mean only people with jobs, and that realisation has not happened. The future of being middle class is being employed, dustman to professional, nothing to do with education, but employment. The future is bleak for most, those from well of backgrounds, with Phd's or degrees or little education are al heading for the scum, unemployed, lazy, classification, where self esteem is with the employed.

 

Being middle class is slowly changing to... just being employed.

[Anna B]

I think we are moving towards just 2 classes; the seriously rich, and everyone else. Or maybe it should be, those with influence (ie. the seriously rich) and those without.