Should I be jailed for breaking the law?

[onewheeldave]

The canabis thing is of no consequence to me, it's smoked regardless of it's status in the Law

 

Well.. whatever.

 

The fact remains that UK drug laws are ridiculous.

[Cyclone]

I have no idea it's a ridiculous Law but as I said it's likely more to do with religion than anything else.

You think it's ridiculous, but not wrong?

 

Does that mean you don't actually see a moral problem with discrimination through statute? Or is it just that you refuse to apply a moral test to a law?

[Murphy Jnr]

You think it's ridiculous, but not wrong?

 

Does that mean you don't actually see a moral problem with discrimination through statute? Or is it just that you refuse to apply a moral test to a law?

 

Morning!.....

[Murphy Jnr]

It means that i can't apply a right or wrong label to a Law, they are what they are.

 

Incidentally there is no Law that prevents Saudi women from driving, it's a religious edict which carries the force of a Law

[Murphy Jnr]

Just for fun what do you consider to be a 'right' law

[Cyclone]

It means that i can't apply a right or wrong label to a Law, they are what they are.

 

Incidentally there is no Law that prevents Saudi women from driving, it's a religious edict which carries the force of a Law

 

You're trying to split hairs. That religious edict is enforced by legislation. The law says that she cannot drive by enforcing that edict.

 

I don't understand your point at all. The law is what it is. That doesn't mean you can't judge any given law on a moral basis. Discriminatory laws are easily judged as wrong, laws which protect people from harm are easily judged as right (for example the law that makes murder illegal).

[Murphy Jnr]

You're trying to split hairs. That religious edict is enforced by legislation. The law says that she cannot drive by enforcing that edict.

 

No i'm trying to help you understand that the Law has nothing to do with this instance. Religion carries a lot of weight in the Middle East it doesn't need the back up of the Law. It doesn't need enforcing, there is no legislation, the church said women are not allowed to drive plain and simple

 

laws which protect people from harm are easily judged as right (for example the law that makes murder illegal).

 

.....or maintaining that drugs cause harm therefore are illegal.

[Cyclone]

You can't argue that the law has nothing to do with it when it's the legal process in that country that enforces religious doctrine and effectively makes it the law. The church aren't punishing her, the court have ordered that punishment.

[Cyclone]

.....or maintaining that drugs cause harm therefore are illegal.

 

I never claimed that every law is easily judged, but that doesn't mean that morality can't be applied to the law.

[Murphy Jnr]

You can't argue that the law has nothing to do with it when it's the legal process in that country that enforces religious doctrine and effectively makes it the law. The church aren't punishing her, the court have ordered that punishment.

 

You're kidding me right, you honestly think that Saudi's religious establisment are answerable?