frank ryan Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Hardly, but I certainly don't lose sleep each time I hear that a criminal has been removed from the gene pool. do you think that a tiny shadow of doubt should prevent an execution? yes or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 you're playing the 'race card' Sussed it Frank. Brewer was a white supremacist done for his part in murdering a black man by dragging him in chains by a pick up truck. Bojangles - a different response from the press has more to do with the fact that Brewer was almost certainly guilty. For the record, I don't think he should have been executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 no, scrapping capital punishment would do. do you think it is even the tiniest percent possible that troy was innocent? (most of the witnesses at his trial now think he was) and , on that basis, was it acceptable to strap him to a trolley and stop his heart with a drugs overdose? No. I think there was enough conclusive evidence to find him guilty and better and wiser men than me in judicial matters also thought so. If the standard sentence for all murderers was life in prison without the possibilty of parole. In other words they stay in prison until they rot and die then I could see ending the death penalty as being okay. The problem is that too many of them serve 15-20 years and then get out to live a normal life until they die of old age. Something they denied the victim That is totally unacceptable to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grann I've just read it again. Written reporting at its finest. It really is a must read. Even if it was fiction it would be gripping, the fact that it actually details real life events, leading up to the state sanctioned murder of an innocent man, is sickening. Under Gov. Rick Perry, now a presidential candidate, Texas has executed more than 230 death row inmates. At the Reagan Library presidential debate, Perry was asked if he had ever lost sleep over the possibility that just one of them might have been innocent. "Not even a wink" was his reply. Not even a wink! That's the problem right there. That is sickening. I can never reconcile how a country which prides itself on being so civilised and is only too happy to invade those countries it deems to be uncivilised, has such a high number of states where capital punishment is still practised. Apparently, there were 46 executions in 2010, 44 by lethal injection, one by electric chair (in Virginia), and one by firing squad (in Utah) (ref: wiki). Firing squad?! I didn't realise that the electric chair was still used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank ryan Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 agree halibut, even despicable supremicist scum should not be killed like animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Sick is the word i would use. Taking anothers life in this way and calling it justice makes me ashamed to be human. Why? Are you one of these people who think they have to carry the world on their shoulders? Do you practce self flagellation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bojangles Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Sussed it Frank. Brewer was a white supremacist done for his part in murdering a black man by dragging him in chains by a pick up truck. Bojangles - a different response from the press has more to do with the fact that Brewer was almost certainly guilty. For the record, I don't think he should have been executed. Ah - key here - a different response to the press. Does the press always lead you so easily? As for Brewer's fate, he was a truly vile individual. If any murderer has ever deserved execution, or society ever been better rid of a dangerous animal masquerading as a human being, the list above Brewer isn't very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank ryan Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 No. I think there was enough conclusive evidence to find him guilty and better and wiser men than me in judicial matters also thought so. If the standard sentence for all murderers was life in prison without the possibilty of parole. In other words they stay in prison until they rot and die then I could see ending the death penalty as being okay. The problem is that too many of them serve 15-20 years and then get out to live a normal life until they die of old age. Something they denied the victim That is totally unacceptable to me In fairness, most men are probably better and wiser than you, but that's not the point - the point is whether even a tiny shadow of doubt should stop a judicial killing - yes or no? simple question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 agree halibut, even despicable supremicist scum should not be killed like animals Better men than criminals are killed in wars. If you think the taking of life is the worst sin mankind can commit then you must be totally against war of any kind.... justified or not.... correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bojangles Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 That is sickening. I can never reconcile how a country which prides itself on being so civilised and is only too happy to invade those countries it deems to be uncivilised, has such a high number of states where capital punishment is still practised. Apparently, there were 46 executions in 2010, 44 by lethal injection, one by electric chair (in Virginia), and one by firing squad (in Utah) (ref: wiki). Firing squad?! I didn't realise that the electric chair was still used.I bet tickets sell quickly in Utah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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