Supertramp Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 But the fees were introduced by Labour...not the tories as you were suggesting... Yes, but some people are deluded. It's all Thatcher's fault doncha know? I went to Uni in the early 2000's and I had to pay then. So carry on blaming the Tories but everyone with half a brain knows Labour implemented tuition fees, Labour bailed out the banks and Labour created 1 Million, yes 1 million non jobs in the public sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Making property developers pay tax at 60% would bring a bit more in! You seem to have a sort of political ADHD. I'll ask again, what's the detail of your credible alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Yes, but some people are deluded. It's all Thatcher's fault doncha know? I went to Uni in the early 2000's and I had to pay then. So carry on blaming the Tories but everyone with half a brain knows Labour implemented tuition fees, Labour bailed out the banks and Labour created 1 Million, yes 1 million non jobs in the public sector. Yes, but some people won't let history's true events get in the way of some class envy - we have to punish the so-called 'rich' for Labour's screw-ups, that's the only way ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertramp Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Who is rich? I'm not. It's just I base my views on most things on actual facts and experience rather than my dad voted labour so I must do to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Sadly it seems that a modern education means that young people can't do the sums to work out that the new fee structure / graduate tax is a much better deal for them than it was under the previous government. It's enough to make a grown man weep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 All part of the 'higher education for all' nonsense. If university places had remained limited just to those with the academic ability to pass a real degree, higher education could have remained free. Instead, Labour made it an alternative to the dole. So why create universities from polytechnics and then try to reduce the number of people attending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Yes, but some people are deluded. It's all Thatcher's fault doncha know? I went to Uni in the early 2000's and I had to pay then. So carry on blaming the Tories but everyone with half a brain knows Labour implemented tuition fees, Labour bailed out the banks and Labour created 1 Million, yes 1 million non jobs in the public sector. You haven't listened to a single thing nevermind understand it, have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 So why create universities from polytechnics and then try to reduce the number of people attending? Some people believe a university degree was worth more than a non-university degree. Changing a name doesn't mean there are any more places than there were originally. So your point is a nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 So why create universities from polytechnics and then try to reduce the number of people attending? Lots of reasons, but in essence it removed an outmoded 2 tier system so that the education mattered rather than the institution. The following government then introduced fees, allowed expansion (and the cash, the cash, think of the cash!£!£!£!£!) for degrees combined surfing with English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 So why create universities from polytechnics and then try to reduce the number of people attending? As I remember you could get a degree from a poly in the late 70's..what's changed apart from the name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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