Conrod Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 the figures you quote may be correct . but how much tax out of the figures your quoting actually pay that tax when their accountants get to see them wake up to the real world and stop being a muppet for the rich :hihi:The figures I quoted are hardly the incomes of 'rich' people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Very nicely put, it's just a shame that some people will push their heads deeper into the sand and repeat the same old nonsense about banks and Tories being responsible for the crisis. I blame banks & politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I blame banks & politicians.Quad erat demonstrandum. The banks were just a small part of the big problem - but hey, many of the City bankers are posh and wear bespoke suits, so let's blame them comrades!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Quad erat demonstrandum. The banks were just a small part of the big problem That's a bit like saying Nazi Germany played a small part in WW2. The 2008 crisis started with the boom in the US housing bubble peaking in 2007. When that bubble burst the US banks were hit hardest and the knock-on effect globally was massive, being felt right up to today. If you deny that reality then then you really shouldn't be taken seriously on issues. It's quod by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 That's a bit like saying Nazi Germany played a small part in WW2. The 2008 crisis started with the boom in the US housing bubble peaking in 2007. When that bubble burst the US banks were hit hardest and the knock-on effect globally was massive, being felt right up to today. If you deny that reality then then you really shouldn't be taken seriously on issues.What you say here is true, but is not an excuse for 13 years of mindless overspending by the Labour administration. That is the reason te UK is ina bit of a mess now. It's quod by the way.Indded it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 All of it. Wake up to the real world, you cannot avoid PAYE. Goldman Sachs avoided paying PAYE tax to the Govt for 10 years. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/oct/11/goldman-sachs-interest-tax-avoidance They eventually got away with the interest payments, after dragging HMRC through the courts for years, at the taxpayers cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthedog Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Who is your employer? It sure as Hell ain't the tax payer, if that's what you're getting at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 It sure as Hell ain't the tax payer, if that's what you're getting at... Which bank? So i can either prove or disprove your logic that they pay tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Goldman Sachs avoided paying PAYE tax to the Govt for 10 years.http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/oct/11/goldman-sachs-interest-tax-avoidance They eventually got away with the interest payments, after dragging HMRC through the courts for years, at the taxpayers cost. No they didn't. They avoided some tax on bunuses - they still paid PAYE on their salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 No they didn't. They avoided some tax on bunuses - they still paid PAYE on their salaries. Oh Conrod. Read the numerous articles on this. In fact, why not watch this Democracy Live on the beeb.... HMRC head Mr Dave Hartnett, being called a liar by the select committee for doing deals Its a great watch.... You gotcha ask yourself how big are the brown envelopes these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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