Drugs Testing for Benefits

[Bassman62]

Some employers choose to drug test, others do not. That is up to them. It certainly is discriminatory because it is intended to discriminate between people who use drugs and people who do not, in the absence of any other reason to discriminate between employees.

Wrong as usual, it is the type of drugs that are being used that is in question ie; illegal druguse/abuse.

[Conrod]

Haha, you really are a Nazi aren't you!!?? Who the hell are you or anyone else to decide if someone looks "undesireable or degenerate"!!?? Unbelievable!

Godwin's Law proven once more on SF.

 

 

 

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[MonkeyRocks]

So, do you or don't you think it would be a good idea to dissuade these poor 'victims' from spending what little money they have on drugs?

 

1. No its far too expensive and difficult to implement, especially when thousands of public sector workers are going to be or have been made redundant.

 

2. Not everyone who takes drugs is a junky. Not every junky is a victim. And if you had any sort of knowledge on the subject you would know drug testing any sort of addict would not stop them using their chosen substance. If they are addicted no it would not, crime rates would soar in drug related crimes. If an addict did not take this path we may have several thousand dead people laying in the street.

[MonkeyRocks]

Should employers not have the right to discriminate between law-abiding employees and criminals?

 

Yes they could also test for wife-beating, piracy, speeding. Being a law-abiding citizen doe not neccesarily mean you are a good, honest person or a good employee btw.

[Bassman62]

2. Not everyone who takes drugs is a junky. Not every junky is a victim. And if you had any sort of knowledge on the subject you would know drug testing any sort of addict would not stop them using their chosen substance.1) If they are addicted no it would not, crime rates would soar in drug related crimes. 2)If an addict did not take this path we may have several thousand dead people laying in the street.

 

My bold 1)= It would if their benefits were stopped.

 

My bold 2)= As long as they're not law abiding people what does it matter.

[MonkeyRocks]

Can you explain how I abuse alcohol.

 

Easily. I'm using your very own standards, anyone who uses drugs is a "drug abuser" according to you. Alcohol is a drug. You are an abuser of alcohol based on your own views.

[Mister M]

Well, I guess there are two camps there.

 

But even in a case where it is acting as a safety net, surely the safety net is there to ensure provision of food and shelter, not drugs?

 

That wouldn't satisfy the blood lust of some people though. What next, workhouse for people claiming benefits for longer than 6 months? Forced sterilisation for people on benefits with too many children?

I find it sad when people, often earning little more than those on benefits like to have a go at those beneath them - but fawn over and forgive the errors of the wealthy.

[MonkeyRocks]

That wouldn't satisfy the blood lust of some people though. What next, workhouse for people claiming benefits for longer than 6 months? Forced sterilisation for people on benefits with too many children?

I find it sad when people, often earning little more than those on benefits like to have a go at those beneath them - but fawn over and forgive the errors of the wealthy.

 

Agreed.......

[Halibut]

Can you explain how I abuse alcohol.

 

Yeah, if you can explain how everyone that smokes a spliff is a lowlife scum junky.

[Bassman62]

That wouldn't satisfy the blood lust of some people though. What next, workhouse for people claiming benefits for longer than 6 months? Forced sterilisation for people on benefits with too many children?

I find it sad when people, often earning little more than those on benefits like to have a go at those beneath them - but fawn over and forgive the errors of the wealthy.

This topic is about prevention of benefit claimants misusing tax payers benefit allowances by buying illegal drugs and partaking in drug abuse.

Obviously you're quite happy to fund such abuse of the benefits system.