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Drugs Testing for Benefits

Conrod

By Conrod
in Padders' Bar: General Discussions

Should claimants have to pass random drug tests to receive benefits?  

82 members have voted

  1. 1. Should claimants have to pass random drug tests to receive benefits?

    • Yes, and if they fail the tests have their benefits stopped until they can provide clear samples.
      24
    • Yes, and if caught their benefits should be reduced by a percentage until they can pass.
      11
    • They should only receive food and domestic service vouchers anyway, not money.
      28
    • No, they should be able to spend other people's money any way they want, even illegally.
      19

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Phanerothyme Experienced

Phanerothyme

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I'm suspicious of the minority of voters who are against testing for drugs.

I suspect that the have an agenda that thye're not disclosing

 

If you think the 'agenda' is undisclosed, then you're even more blinkered than I thought - the agenda is writ large through this and other threads.

 

The agenda is to convince people that prohibition is the cause of nearly all the problems with currently illegal drugs.

 

This thread was started by someone who professes a belief in executing drug users, so why they would want to drug test benefits claimants (including pensioners, children, people with disabilities and medical conditions) when in fact they just want to euthanise the undesirables, is beyond me.

 

Seems like an unnecessary hoop to jump through on the way to a police state or a nanny state, depending on what kind of gloves are being worn.

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Obelix Experienced

Obelix

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Well the "moaner" in the OP is a working soldier, and the people giving him his money (in this case HMG) insist on a drugs test just like many other employers do.

 

The soldier asks whether the people giving money to welfare recipients (ie HMG) should insist on a drugs test just like many employers do.

 

Is that a good reason?

 

That's because if he takes drugs it will have a direct effect on his performance, especially with regard to the safety and well being of his colleagues. That's why it's reasonable to have for example random drug testings for train drivers, for forklift truck operators, but it would be much harder to argue it for people like a filing clerk, or a receptionist.

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Frank Sidney

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So you're happy to fund out of your taxes the habits of substances abusers. :suspect:

 

 

I am. If we are to have a welfare state then people will be paid the money they are entitled to. We, as a country, wouldn't be any better off if the claimants spent their money on fruit, holidays or weed. If they choose to spend some on weed then they are not spending it on other things.

 

There are a great number of people who use weed for medical purposes. If they didn't use weed then they'd no doubt be a burden to the NHS.

 

I for example was prescribed various prescription drugs for my condition. None of them work as does weed. Therefore, weed is actually saving the NHS and country money. I don't need to see a doctor any more and no doubt the prescription fee does not cover the cost of the drugs supplied by the chemist. Most of which are much more damaging than weed. I very rarely have time of work because weed has just about cured my condition.

 

I would actively encourage anyone with a medical condition, where traditional medicine hasn't helped, to try weed, they may be surprised with the results. I've even given it to my 75 year old mum with various conditions and she's greatly impressed.

 

I don't agree with a lot of things the government spends money on. Like the wars and bank bail out. So to single out weed smokers is a bit of a none starter really. It's just another way for Mr. Angry of Chippingham to vent his rage and froth at the mouth.

 

In relation to other drug users you need to show some compassion and thank your lucky stars you don't have to endure the misery, they, and their family do. It's a horrendous life, full of pain.

 

If there is anyone in the world who needs to smoke a bit of weed, its you....You'll lose the bitterness in your heart and become a better person for it..

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Phanerothyme Experienced

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That's because if he takes drugs it will have a direct effect on his performance, especially with regard to the safety and well being of his colleagues.

 

The death and gunshot injuries aboard H.M.S. Astute may have been prevented if their alcohol testing regime had been more efficient.

 

Perhaps it is time to stop the armed forces from drinking altogether, both on and off duty?

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