websters gue Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Absolutely, but I'm not proud of everything about Sheffield. So what are the things that make you proud of being from Sheffield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balpin Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Most counties in England are supportive of the Conservaive party. The exceptions are the ex-heavy industry areas like South Yorkshire, Tyneside and parts of the Midlands, plus of course the London boroughs for different reasons. To me, that blue majority across most of England represents the 'ordinary person'. The class war loving ex-miners and steelwokers who hate Tories because of miguided them'n'us views they've been brainwashed with by unions and Labour are not the 'ordinary person'. They're peculiar to places like Sheffield. That, I am afraid, is not an answer. I am intrigued as to why some one should support an organisation such as the Tories. Their interest and yours are 180 degrees opposite. It has always amazed me how, and why, working people support the party of the petty aristocracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincero dOro Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 Purely as a matter of interest, why do you support the Conservative Party so much? It is unclear why someone posting on a popular forum such as this would support such a party, for they do not have any ordinary persons interests under consideration. I suppose it is the tragedy of the Labour Party that there are many in its hierarchy that don't understand this either. This is why the party allows trade unions to pick it's leaders and then don't have a clue why folks don't relate to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I suppose it is the tragedy of the Labour Party that there are many in its hierarchy that don't understand this either. This is why the party allows trade unions to pick it's leaders and then don't have a clue why folks don't relate to them. Maybe the overall picture is not as bleak a picture as you have us believe Tory Boy! More from YouGov/Sunday Times 2 Oct 2011 Full tables for the YouGov/Sunday Times poll are now up here. This week’s topline figures are CON 36%, LAB 42%, LDEM 10% – so there is no obvious sign of a conference boost for Labour. Ed Miliband’s own ratings are almost unchanged from last week. His net approval stands at minus 32, from minus 33 a week ago. More positively Miliband was seen as the leader most able to understand the problems faced by ordinary people (or at least, the leader least unable to understand them). 35% thought Miliband was able to understand ordinary people’s problems, compared to 30% for Clegg, 29% for Cameron and 22% for George Osborne. David Cameron’s approval rating is also steady at minus 8, unchanged from a week ago. Wider perceptions of his premiership so far are pretty average – 37% think he has been an average Prime Minister, 21% a good or great Prime Minister, 39% a poor or terrible Prime Minister. 40% of people think it was the right decision for the Conservatives to go into coalition with the Liberal Democrats, 42% think it was the wrong decision. When we asked the same question for the Liberal Democrats a fortnight ago, 36% had thought it was right for them to go into coalition with the Tories, 45% thought it was the wrong decision. The public remain divided on the economic strategy, 36% saying the government should continue to prioritise the deficit, 38% that they should prioritise growth. However, there were majorities in favour of all the suggested growth policies asked about (extra capital spending, VAT cuts and increasing personal tax allowances). There is little support for Britain helping in any further bailout in the Eurozone. 63% agree that Britain has its own problems and should not contribute any money to help the debt crisis, 22% think it is in Britain’s interests to contribute money to help solve the crisis. Finally there were some questions on Tony Blair. Blair is regarded as the best Labour party leader by 24% of respondents, followed by John Smith on 16% and Harold Wilson on 11% (Clement Attlee receives only 6% – suggesting a not unsurprising bias towards more recent leaders). 39% of people think Blair was a good or great Prime Minister, 24% an average one, 35% a poor or terrible one. Despite the broadly positive perception of him, 47% think that Miliband should distance his party from Blair, with 27% disagreeing (though they also think Labour party members were wrong to boo his name). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincero dOro Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 Maybe the overall picture is not as bleak a picture as you have us believe Tory Boy! More from YouGov/Sunday Times 2 Oct 2011 Full tables for the YouGov/Sunday Times poll are now up here. This week’s topline figures are CON 36%, LAB 42%, LDEM 10% – so there is no obvious sign of a conference boost for Labour. Ed Miliband’s own ratings are almost unchanged from last week. His net approval stands at minus 32, from minus 33 a week ago. More positively Miliband was seen as the leader most able to understand the problems faced by ordinary people (or at least, the leader least unable to understand them). 35% thought Miliband was able to understand ordinary people’s problems, compared to 30% for Clegg, 29% for Cameron and 22% for George Osborne. David Cameron’s approval rating is also steady at minus 8, unchanged from a week ago. Wider perceptions of his premiership so far are pretty average – 37% think he has been an average Prime Minister, 21% a good or great Prime Minister, 39% a poor or terrible Prime Minister. 40% of people think it was the right decision for the Conservatives to go into coalition with the Liberal Democrats, 42% think it was the wrong decision. When we asked the same question for the Liberal Democrats a fortnight ago, 36% had thought it was right for them to go into coalition with the Tories, 45% thought it was the wrong decision. The public remain divided on the economic strategy, 36% saying the government should continue to prioritise the deficit, 38% that they should prioritise growth. However, there were majorities in favour of all the suggested growth policies asked about (extra capital spending, VAT cuts and increasing personal tax allowances). There is little support for Britain helping in any further bailout in the Eurozone. 63% agree that Britain has its own problems and should not contribute any money to help the debt crisis, 22% think it is in Britain’s interests to contribute money to help solve the crisis. Finally there were some questions on Tony Blair. Blair is regarded as the best Labour party leader by 24% of respondents, followed by John Smith on 16% and Harold Wilson on 11% (Clement Attlee receives only 6% – suggesting a not unsurprising bias towards more recent leaders). 39% of people think Blair was a good or great Prime Minister, 24% an average one, 35% a poor or terrible one. Despite the broadly positive perception of him, 47% think that Miliband should distance his party from Blair, with 27% disagreeing (though they also think Labour party members were wrong to boo his name). I suppose it would take one of those blind following Labour Boys like you to think that what you posted was somehow good news for your party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I suppose it would take one of those blind following Labour Boys like you to think that what you posted was somehow good news for your party. Didn't you mean 'Labour fan-boys'!!! - Cheers serapis!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 More from YouGov/Sunday Times 2 Oct 2011 Full tables for the YouGov/Sunday Times poll are now up here. This week’s topline figures are CON 36%, LAB 42%, LDEM 10% – so there is no obvious sign of a conference boost for Labour. Ed Miliband’s own ratings are almost unchanged from last week. His net approval stands at minus 32, from minus 33 a week ago. These polls are pure hypotheses. There isn't going to be an election soon so why bother? In a campaign Miliband would get torn apart. He's too weak and comes across as a clueless wimp. It will be a long time before people forget Labour's economic incompetence. Ed Balls' presence will make sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 These polls are pure hypotheses. There isn't going to be an election soon so why bother? In a campaign Miliband would get torn apart. He's too weak and comes across as a clueless wimp. It will be a long time before people forget Labour's economic incompetence. Ed Balls' presence will make sure of that. In that case so are the polls showing Milliband is doing poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 You'd have to be severely deluded (or blinded by party politics) to think that a few percentage points either way, for any party, makes a blind bit of difference to anyone in the real world in October 2011. It won't put food on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 It won't put food on the table. A bit like the ConDems then, as millions are finding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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