I1L2T3 Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 The Tory Party, Masters of stating the flippin' obvious! Like all politicians, only when it suits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavegirl Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I found this 1 hour lecture by Richard Wolff (Professor emeritus at UMass) very interesting recently. It's called 'Capitalism hits the fan' and he speaks from a Marxist perspective about his views on modern capitalism and the recent crash. Fantastic speaker with some interesting ideas about our 'global debt storm'. These types of lectures, from both the left and right wing, make it so clear where the truth ends and pathetic point scoring begins in our modern political system; I'm also looking forward to this documentary which is due out soon. Trailer here: http://www.fourhorsemenfilm.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 I found this 1 hour lecture by Richard Wolff (Professor emeritus at UMass) very interesting recently. It's called 'Capitalism hits the fan' and he speaks from a Marxist perspective about his views on modern capitalism and the recent crash. Fantastic speaker with some interesting ideas about our 'global debt storm'. These types of lectures, from both the left and right wing, make it so clear where the truth ends and pathetic point scoring begins in our modern political system; I'm also looking forward to this documentary which is due out soon. Trailer here: http://www.fourhorsemenfilm.com/ Well, it would have helped us if this global problem had been fully acknowledged by the Tories before now instead of trying to portray our debt as a uniqueuly British product of profligate public spending. The LibDems are complicit in this as well. And it would have helped if Labour had not been such a poor opposition since May 2010. When they should have been battling to get the correct narrative out they were bogged down in their leadership elections - hardly doing the country a service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavegirl Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Well, it would have helped us if this global problem had been fully acknowledged by the Tories before now instead of trying to portray our debt as a uniqueuly British product of profligate public spending. The LibDems are complicit in this as well. And it would have helped if Labour had not been such a poor opposition since May 2010. When they should have been battling to get the correct narrative out they were bogged down in their leadership elections - hardly doing the country a service. Academics, philosophers and political thinkers have been questioning for thousands of years why the masses have never been inclined to understand the intricacies of the economy, law, ethics, foreign policy etc. If the majority of people were willing to educate themselves about the wider world, we wouldn't need a state at all, we'd be more than capable of organising ourselves and governing ourselves. In essence we'd be free human beings. The elites aren't responsible for our ignorance, but they really love to use it against us. We're surrounded by 'bread and circuses' as a means of distracting us from political insight and there's only us that have the power to change that situation. Labour, Liberal, Conservative are three names for one body, when you work this out all of the political in fighting becomes completely spurious within your understanding of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Just saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqN3amj6AcE interesting to see the collective jaws dropping in the BBC studios as a Stock Market Trader they are interviewing speaks with rather more candour than they were expecting as he tells them the Governments don't rule the world, Goldman Sachs rules the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Just the same old rubbish rebranded by the Tories. When they fail to drive the UK forward, and they will/are doing, as recognised by a Tory whip the other day and even their own propaganda media have turned against them, no doubt it will be all Labour's fault again, probably around the time of the election. The tories are predictable to the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavegirl Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Just saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqN3amj6AcE interesting to see the collective jaws dropping in the BBC studios as a Stock Market Trader they are interviewing speaks with rather more candour than they were expecting as he tells them the Governments don't rule the world, Goldman Sachs rules the world. Wow! Is that for real? It kinda reminds me of when the Yes Men infiltrated the BBC pretending to be representatives of Dow Chemical offering to reimburse the Indians affected by the Bhopal disaster. That knocked a fair amount off their share price hehe! You can see it here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavegirl Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Ah no, it's not them (the Yes Men) apparently: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/29/alessio-rastani-no-prank?newsfeed=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Just saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqN3amj6AcE interesting to see the collective jaws dropping in the BBC studios as a Stock Market Trader they are interviewing speaks with rather more candour than they were expecting as he tells them the Governments don't rule the world, Goldman Sachs rules the world. http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8123861#post8123861 There's already a thread on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pb1977 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Just saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqN3amj6AcE interesting to see the collective jaws dropping in the BBC studios as a Stock Market Trader they are interviewing speaks with rather more candour than they were expecting as he tells them the Governments don't rule the world, Goldman Sachs rules the world. It's been highlighted on the news that the interview in question was quite possibly a hoax, some say it was, some say it wasn't . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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