VideoPro Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 If people really find sterilisation so repugnant, perhaps financial penalties would be a better solution. Say only pay benefits for the first child and if they have more than two kids they actually get their benefits reduced instead of being given more. You mean slowly starve them to death instead? Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyjones Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 hows about raising taxes for all you who don't mind paying and giving the people who do a choice to opt out people can do what they please i just shouldn't have to pay for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 . . . Even the hopeless and feckless and lazy are human beings too, worthy of dignity and having their own value. Who are we to treat them like dirt?Are they really, or should that worth and dignity be something they need to display? Nobody suggests treating them like dirt, but that doesn't mean they should be treated better than they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckolad Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Well it looks like Sheffield is evenly divided on the matter so far!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 hows about raising taxes for all you who don't mind paying and giving the people who do a choice to opt out If you also apply that to buying bombs and bailing out banks then fine, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 There are lots of people who wouldn't have been born who've led happy and productive lives even though they weren't fortunate enough to be born into comfortable surroundings. Coversely there are those who are born into well off familes that go off the rails and end up on the street - due to mental illness, circumstance etc. What a nasty, spiteful thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Why is it evil? The people in our sink estates, the absolute dregs of society, have kids like it's going out of fashion and just produce new generations of benefit-sponging underclass. Why should we see this as their 'right'????? Not that you're one to make sweeping judgements & cast aspersions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 If the poll is in any way representative of Sheffield/UK, I'm so glad I left, it's turning into such a nasty hatefull country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big time Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The Fabian society(left wing think tank affiliated to the Labour party) advocated eugenics for "down and outers" in it's early days; Prominent Fabians such as H G Wells, Bernard Shaw and the Webbs led the way in combining the ‘progressive’ ideologies of socialism and eugenics. “What we as eugenicists have got to do is to ‘scrap’ the old Poor Law with its indiscriminate relief of the destitute as such and replace it by an intelligent policy of so altering the social environment as to discourage or prevent the multiplication of those irrevocably below the National Minimum of Fitness.” Beatrice Webb (socialist) LABOUR politician and Fabian, Archibald Church introduced a bill for eugenic sterilization in the 1930's to stop “those who are in every way a burden to their parents, a misery to themselves and in my opinion a menace to the social life of the community” from reproducing. http://www.enotes.com/topic/Archibald_Church Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoPro Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hi there, Speaking of death prediction, I find it really odd that one of the on-line death prediction services showed me the same death date that I was foretold in my dream about a year ago. Hi there, I found that Googling the sentence that you just wrote brings up 4770 hits with the exact same content. Do you work at a factory that produces tinned, mechanically reclaimed pork products? And what's it got to do with the topic under discussion anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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