Jump to content

Cameron.. Pay Off Your Credit Cards To Help Economy


Recommended Posts

eh? Please develop this theme in the context of consumer debt.

 

Ermm, I was replying to Wildcat

 

If paying off debts was really good he would be advising banks and all institutions to do so

 

Who specifically mentioned non consumer debt.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think that’s where the government comes in, they regulate banks and businesses and make sure they act in a fare way. The problem with the banks is that the governments of the world didn’t understand the complexities of all these debts that were being sold as investments.

 

In fairness, if the people who are supposed to be specialised experts in these complex financial products couldn't work out what was going on, even though they were working with them day in day out, what chance would government ministers have, especially considering that their main source of information on the world of finance would almost certainly be the people who work in the world of finance?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sorry, it's not just morality that is in question.

 

Fractional controls were side-stepped by many banks. For example using Structured Investment Vehicles (SIVs). They side-stepped them so they can sell more mortgages and other products. Like I said Citigroup leveraged 280:1. That is they lent $280 for every $1 they held in deposits. Mind-blowing stuff - that is not somebody just doing their job.

 

You're making a common mistake here. You're assuming something went wrong - It didn't.

 

The people who hatched the plan made the fortune they intended to make.

What makes you think they gave a rats about the mugs they took for a ride?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The thing is donkey the blame is usually on both sides of the deal. Irresponsible lenders lending to irresponsible borrowers.

 

There is a fundamental flaw in expecting everyone will behave responsibly. A certain proportion of people just won't. That is guarenteed.

 

On the other hand bankers are in their jobs because of the very fact that they are supposed to be extremely responsible.

 

It is reasonable to expect them not to do things like deliberately targeting more credit at people who have already proven they can't control their finances.

 

It is not reasonable to expect that everyone who they aimed such loans at would be able or willing to pay it back.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You're making a common mistake here. You're assuming something went wrong - It didn't.

 

The people who hatched the plan made the fortune they intended to make.

What makes you think they gave a rats about the mugs they took for a ride?

 

I know they probably planned it.

 

But the way things turned is not a great outcome for the global economy as we are now finding. If 99% of people have been screwed over then something most likely went wrong somewhere.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In fairness, if the people who are supposed to be specialised experts in these complex financial products couldn't work out what was going on, even though they were working with them day in day out, what chance would government ministers have, especially considering that their main source of information on the world of finance would almost certainly be the people who work in the world of finance?

 

Because the papers were full of adverts offering loans that exceeded the value of the security?

 

Surely even the dimmest (‽) of Blair and Brown's little helpers should have smelled something as being not quite right?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Because the papers were full of adverts offering loans that exceeded the value of the security?

 

Surely even the dimmest (‽) of Blair and Brown's little helpers should have smelled something as being not quite right?

 

How true it doesn't take a genius to think there is something wrong with offering 125% mortgages, but the government were happy to watch it happen because all that extra money stimulated the economy and made them look good.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Because the papers were full of adverts offering loans that exceeded the value of the security?

 

Surely even the dimmest (‽) of Blair and Brown's little helpers should have smelled something as being not quite right?

 

It was a massive failing of the last government and one of my biggest disappointments with them, especially with the way it distorted the mortgage market - but mortgages are for another thread.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.