CXC3000 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Just another cowardly act by our Government to appease Israeli terrorists. ------------- Critics claim change in law governing arrest warrants for war crimes is motivated by political pressure from Israel The former Israeli foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, will meet the foreign secretary, William Hague, in Britain on Thursday in the first test of a new law governing arrest warrants for war crimes. Westminster magistrates court issued an unprecedented arrest warrant for Livni in 2009 – a move that led to an review of the issuing of such warrants. The move, which critics claimed was motivated by political pressure from Israel, has paved the way for Livni's visit, which was announced on Monday at a Conservative Party conference fringe event. At a Conservative Friends of Israel meeting, director Stuart Polak said Livni always planned to come to the UK once there had been a change in the law to prevent her being arrested for political purposes. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/04/tzipi-livni-arrest-warrant?newsfeed=true ------- Shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balpin Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 So what, I would rather have the Israelis on my side any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog of war Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 So what, I would rather have the Israelis on my side any day Same here, outstanding people, nation, culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Dome Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 ^^ Yep, same here! They just won their 10th Nobel prize, which is outstanding for such a small nation! http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/israel-s-daniel-shechtman-wins-2011-nobel-prize-in-chemistry-1.388301?localLinksEnabled=false Published 11:55 05.10.11 Latest update 12:54 05.10.11 Israel's Daniel Shechtman wins 2011 Nobel Prize in chemistry Professor at Haifa's Technion wins Israel's tenth Nobel for his discovery of patterns in atoms. By Asaf Shtull-Trauring, Haaretz and Reuters Tags: Israel Nobel Technion Daniel Shechtman Israeli scientist Daniel Shechtman has been named as the winner of the 2011 Nobel Prize in chemistry, the award panel for the prestigious prize announced Wednesday. He was awarded the prize for his discovery of patterns in atoms called quasicrystals, a chemical structure that researchers previously thought was impossible. Tel Aviv-born Shechtman, 70, is a professor at Technion - Israel Institute of Technology, in Haifa, as well as an Associate of the U.S. Department of Energy's Ames Laboratory, and a professor at Iowa State University. Congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Shameful. Not so. None of them has been convicted of any criminal offence, so what is your real objection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Not so. None of them has been convicted of any criminal offence, so what is your real objection? It isn't for convictions against him that he is wanted for trial. It is for accusations against him. What is shameful is that this change essentially means that an act which is a war crime if our enemies do it, is not a war crime if our allies do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Er, principles of justice demand a conviction before guilt is accepted. Even the OP speaks of 'criminals' [= those convicted of crimes]. So both you and he are provably wrong. As you both well know that, it's you both who are shamed by your unfounded views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Er, principles of justice demand a conviction before guilt is accepted. Indeed they do, but they have never demanded a conviction before an arrest warrant can be issued. Are you seriously suggesting that nobody should be tried on war criminal charges until after they have been tried and convicted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 No, I'm pointing-out to you and your confrere that no-one is a 'criminal' unless/until convicted. So the thread title is contentious and clearly wrong. I'd rephrase your words to read that I'm seriously suggesting that nobody should be called a 'criminal', whether on war crime charges or any other charges, unless and until after they have been tried and convicted. Surely you'd agree with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 No, I'm pointing-out to you and your confrere that no-one is a 'criminal' unless/until convicted. While that's true, it is completely irrelevant to this story, which is about our courts not even being allowed to put suspected war criminals on trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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