I1L2T3 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 You are right, there are boundaries required. So yes, your refuge should stay safe and I'm sure that such an organisation takes care with it's letterhead printing. From what I have read Letwin hasn't disposed of anything that is even remotely secret, or of any interest to anyone beyond a naughty journalist who had to rummage in bins no less than 5 times to make sure before revealing the ghastly truth. More generally, as a nation we are obsessed with secrecy to no real end. This secrecy is what allows some politicians and officials to pursue self interest instead of citizen interest. . Let us not forget how MPs used the DPA to their own advantage during the expenses scandal. They were aware of it then!! IMO there is a high likelihood that Letwin breached the DPA but it is doubtful anything damaging to the government was binned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElasticMan Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 none sensitive documents .. was he taking them to the park to read by any chance? You seem pretty sure about that - luckily there is now going to be a proper investigation http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/14/oliver-letwin-investigation-documents-bin The Tories seem to believe that the rules don't apply to them, and that if they get caught breaking them they get away with it by firstly denying it, then admitting it, then just apologising. This government is totally incompetent. We have a Home Secretary making policy based on tabloid lies, a Defence Secretary up to his neck in unofficial meetings with an advisor who is being paid for by firms with a direct interest in defence contracts and now this idiot throwing private documents around in public. The sooner we get rid of the arrogant dunces the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 You seem pretty sure about that - luckily there is now going to be a proper investigation http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/14/oliver-letwin-investigation-documents-bin He does appear to have shown a complete lack of judgement. The Tories seem to believe that the rules don't apply to them, and that if they get caught breaking them they get away with it by firstly denying it, then admitting it, then just apologising. That has a familiar ring to it, even before the current government came to power. It's not confined to Tories. This government is totally incompetent. I think they've got a way to go yet to catch up to the previous government in this regard. We have a Home Secretary making policy based on tabloid lies, a Defence Secretary up to his neck in unofficial meetings with an advisor who is being paid for by firms with a direct interest in defence contracts and now this idiot throwing private documents around in public. I'm sure our last PM made a speech about "lethal" strains of cannibis, the type that only exists in the minds of tabloid readers, and then went ahead and set policy based on that, while ignoring his own scientific advisors. The sooner we get rid of the arrogant dunces the better. We did that already, now we're on the next lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeX Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 You seem pretty sure about that - luckily there is now going to be a proper investigation http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/14/oliver-letwin-investigation-documents-bin The Tories seem to believe that the rules don't apply to them, and that if they get caught breaking them they get away with it by firstly denying it, then admitting it, then just apologising. This government is totally incompetent. We have a Home Secretary making policy based on tabloid lies, a Defence Secretary up to his neck in unofficial meetings with an advisor who is being paid for by firms with a direct interest in defence contracts and now this idiot throwing private documents around in public. The sooner we get rid of the arrogant dunces the better. No, I'm just using the information available and not doing the usual Labour trick of predicting or assuming. If he has dumped sensitive material on a bin or data that is protected under any law, then he should be sacked as this was deliberate, but if they turn out to be innocuous papers, this is a none issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Is this the same Oliver Letwin who made comments about not wanting Sheffield families to afford cheap holidays? I am surprised he has so much support on the forum. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-12972517 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Is this the same Oliver Letwin who made comments about not wanting Sheffield families to afford cheap holidays? I am surprised he has so much support on the forum. I wouldn't call it support, more like a sense of proportionality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy Jnr Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Is this the same Oliver Letwin who made comments about not wanting Sheffield families to afford cheap holidays? I am surprised he has so much support on the forum. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-12972517 We're not ones to hold a grudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanteblue Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 This sort of thing isnt new. We have had laptops left on trains by civil servants , files left in restaurants in the past few years . Forgetfulness by those in power is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balpin Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 It all seems a bit weird. A government minister, on his own, wandering about in a park in the early morning, with government documents. Sitting on benches reading them, then dumping them in public litterbins. And this man is given responsibility for decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy Jnr Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 And this man is given responsibility for decision making. Only at work, not at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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