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Seconded, I still don't understand where the phrase "killer nanny dog" comes from:loopy:

 

He's parodying the myth put about by the pro-staffy lobby that staffies were historically known as the "nanny dog". This link below proves it's a myth;

 

http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/08/nanny-dog-myth-revealed.html

 

After all how many nannys do you know who savagely attack the children in their care?

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Many of the idiots who keep these dogs claim they make great "Nanny dogs" as they're so gentle with the children they don't kill.

 

Why do you think that people that disagree with you are idiots? I would hazard a guess that they just have first hand experience of dogs and therefore know what they are talking about!

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He's parodying the myth put about by the pro-staffy lobby that staffies were historically known as the "nanny dog". This link below proves it's a myth;

 

http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/08/nanny-dog-myth-revealed.html

 

After all how many nannys do you know who savagely attack the children in their care?

 

propaganda strikes again....very few people are stupid enough to believe websites like this!

 

I particularly like the way it is suggesting that because the nanny dog in peter pan has never been acted by a staffy bull they are not in fact "nanny" dogs. What an amazing "fact" that is!

 

We messed up on the meaning of evidence and we are now having a similar problem with the word proof!

 

One of the comments below the article is talking about how legislation like this was used by hitler to help exterminate the jews. That is what this rubbish reminds me of also!

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Many of the idiots who keep these dogs claim they make great "Nanny dogs" as they're so gentle with the children they don't kill.

 

That's because the vast majority of them don't but you and Rickie both refuse to believe or even comment on the videos provided to show that yet, lo and behold, we're expected to accept those that come from you as conclusive proof that the dog; all of them are killers.

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He's parodying the myth put about by the pro-staffy lobby that staffies were historically known as the "nanny dog". This link below proves it's a myth;

 

http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/08/nanny-dog-myth-revealed.html

 

After all how many nannys do you know who savagely attack the children in their care?

 

actually much like with dogs, there are examples of this. I can't pretend to know which are true but there have been a number of cases where a nanny is accused of attacking a child they are supposed to be caring for so that points a bit redundant. In any case no-one is leaving their dog to babysit their children are they!

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He's parodying the myth put about by the pro-staffy lobby that staffies were historically known as the "nanny dog". This link below proves it's a myth;

 

http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/08/nanny-dog-myth-revealed.html

 

After all how many nannys do you know who savagely attack the children in their care?

 

Staffordshire Bull Terriers and Pitbull Terriers are entirely different dogs. The term 'nanny' is in relation to the Staffy and not the Pitbull. The site you've offered is an American site centred around The American Pitbull which again is a different breed (recognised by the AKC) of dog to the Pit types in the UK. The American Staffordshire Bull Terrier is different from the English type also especially in size. When you've run out of straws to clutch at let me know.

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Staffordshire Bull Terriers and Pitbull Terriers are entirely different dogs. The term 'nanny' is in relation to the Staffy and not the Pitbull. The site you've offered is an American site centred around The American Pitbull which again is a different breed (recognised by the AKC) of dog to the Pit types in the UK. The American Staffordshire Bull Terrier is different from the English type also especially in size. When you've run out of straws to clutch at let me know.

 

Wrong again!

 

A staffy is a type of pit bull. Here's an explanation from a pro-staffy site if you don't believe me.

 

 

"I adopted a dog at the shelter and was told that he is a Staffordshire Terrier. Is a Staffordshire Terrier the same as a Pit Bull?

 

First, it is important to know that Staffordshire Terrier and “pit bull” are not official breeds. They are common terms used to describe a certain type of dog. There are actually three breeds that can be easily confused. The correct designations are:

 

■American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) - recognized by the ADBA and UKC

■American Staffordshire Terrier (AST) - recognized by the AKC

■Staffordshire Bull Terrier (SBT) - recognized by the AKC and UKC

 

They are essentially the same dogs but have been bred for different purposes and/or size standards since the mid 1930's. "

 

Source http://www.pbrc.net/faq.html

 

Do you understand now?

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Wrong again!

 

A staffy is a type of pit bull. Here's an explanation from a pro-staffy site if you don't believe me.

 

 

"I adopted a dog at the shelter and was told that he is a Staffordshire Terrier. Is a Staffordshire Terrier the same as a Pit Bull?

 

First, it is important to know that Staffordshire Terrier and “pit bull” are not official breeds. They are common terms used to describe a certain type of dog. There are actually three breeds that can be easily confused. The correct designations are:

 

■American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) - recognized by the ADBA and UKC

■American Staffordshire Terrier (AST) - recognized by the AKC

■Staffordshire Bull Terrier (SBT) - recognized by the AKC and UKC

 

They are essentially the same dogs but have been bred for different purposes and/or size standards since the mid 1930's. "

 

Source http://www.pbrc.net/faq.html

 

Do you understand now?

 

And that is correct but the Staffordshire Terrier is not the same as the Staffordshire Bull Terrier and once again you're info is from an American site discussing American breeds.

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And that is correct but the Staffordshire Terrier is not the same as the Staffordshire Bull Terrier and once again you're info is from an American site discussing American breeds.

 

How can a Staffordshire Bull Terrier be an American breed? Staffordshire's in England!

 

Whether it's an American site or not is irrelevant. It explains why a Staffordshire Bull Terrier is a type of Pit Bull Terrier.

 

Here's a thing though Rickie. If you read down from your cut off point it goes on to say that the three breeds mentioned including the Staffy as a general rule have a stable and loving temperament :hihi: and this from a pro-site....

 

Er, you don't know what "pro" means, do you?

 

When I say "pro", it means a site that is promoting staffies and trying to argue in favour of them. That a site trying to defend staffies can't deny how dangerous a breed they are says it all.

 

Surely if how dangerous staffies are depended on how they were bred, the statistics would be totally different from one country to the next? They're not though; take this site from Australia where the government did a study on number of dog attacks by breed in New South Wales.

 

http://www.dlg.nsw.gov.au/dlg/dlghome/documents/information/NSW%20Report%20-%20Dog%20Attack%20Incidents%20-%203rd%20quarter%20report%20-%202009-10.pdf

 

On page two is shows that there were 156 attacks by Staffordshire Bull Terriers (plus another 46 where it was thought the breed was a Staffordshire Bull Terrier but couldn't be conclusively identified). That's over 200 attacks by Staffies, more than double those by the next most frequently attacking dog!

 

So whether you live in the UK, the US or Australia, it's been proved time and time again that the staffy is the most dangerous breed of dog. This is why something needs to be done to protect our children from them.

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