CXC3000 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Pointless comment as they don't do national service. Maybe that's because they haven't got a national state ? But you seem to be avoiding in answering the question. Here, let me re-phrase it for you slightly differently : if the Palestinians had a state where they had to do national service, you'd be ok if that earlier pic had a Palestinian child in it ? So come on, show us the story behind your picture.. callippo said it was taken out of context; I asked him in what context should we look at it; he refused to answer. Would you like to respond on his (and other ultra-Zionists') behalf ? and also i'd like to see where you took that bogus sig-quote from. The reference is in the sig. itself, Jericho. Accept that the current (and former) PMs of Israel are as vile as the extremists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callippo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 the Netanyahu quote sig is a fake, like 90% of your posts. The only online sources where you will find it on are unattributed blogs by Israel hating antisemites like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callippo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 To use the Israeli argument (from the 'other' side): 'there were military personnel in or near those population centres, therefore they were legitimate targets'.... liar. What you're basically saying here is that it's OK to kill fifty civilians if one soldier gets killed - and that is not the way the IDF works. It's the way the Arab terrorists work, but not the IDF. it's the old 'argument' again we've heard a million times before, that any Israeli is a legitimate target, because there's conscription in Israel, and that means that they are ALL soldiers and therefore legitimate military targets, even babies or old people, on the basis that babies will ONE DAY be soldiers, or old people have been soldiers in the past. unfortunately this idea falls flat on its face, not only because not all Jewish Israelis go into the army, but because when the rockets are coming in, totally indiscriminately, from Israel's northern border with Lebanon, this is the part of Israel where Israeli Arab citizens, who are not required to serve in the army (though some do) are in their greatest concentration. Those Hizbullah rockets killed and injured a lot of Israelis that were and are Arabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheffLad76 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Maybe that's because they haven't got a national state ? But you seem to be avoiding in answering the question. Here, let me re-phrase it for you slightly differently : if the Palestinians had a state where they had to do national service, you'd be ok if that earlier pic had a Palestinian child in it ? callippo said it was taken out of context; I asked him in what context should we look at it; he refused to answer. Would you like to respond on his (and other ultra-Zionists') behalf ? The reference is in the sig. itself, Jericho. Accept that the current (and former) PMs of Israel are as vile as the extremists. No... let me correct you here CX, Israeli kids got brainwashed since they are kids and chant "kill all Arabs " then it is fine and it is a self defence and when they learn how to use deadly weapons ,it is self defence..and when they grow up they use PS3 and Xbox like heavy weapons on civilians areas ,it is self defence...and when the defenceless Palestinians use any form of reaction VS the F16 and the Merkava and the drones etc... then it is terrorism... now you should learn the Israeli twisted way of thinking.. and then wait the next " anti-Semitism" curse following ..the funny thing is Palestinians are Semite themselves... Israeli Yeshiva (school) students often demonstrate and chant, "Death to the Arabs." Defending their extreme behavior, Rabbi Ido Elba explains, "According to the Talmud (Jewish book of traditions), one may kill any Gentile." Rabbi Schlomo Aviner adds that normal human codes and laws of justice and righteousness do not apply to the Jews. What Israel doesnt want you to know..watch this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callippo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 it's obviously a fake quote. If it was true, you should be able to get it quoted from it's original source - not an afterword posted on to what amounts to being an Al Jazeera blog. although CXC300 has been spamming the falsehood around a lot of internet forums for the past couple of years, it still hasn't quite achieved the currency necessary for http://www.camera.org to take a look into the Hebrew archives and debunk it comprehensively. these 'quotes' are always if not taken out of context, then just invented, or made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callippo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 As prime minister from 1996-1999, Netanyahu emphasised a policy of "Three No's": no withdrawal from Golan Heights, no discussion of the status of Jerusalem, no negotiations under any preconditions. he definitely said that, not just once, but numerous times, of course in response the famous Arab 'Three No's'. He just didn't say Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China [Tiananmen Square], when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories. That's a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callippo Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 As prime minister from 1996-1999, Netanyahu emphasised a policy of "Three No's": no withdrawal from Golan Heights, no discussion of the status of Jerusalem, no negotiations under any preconditions. Netanyhu definitely said this, not just once but numerous times. In fact, he ran on it as a campaigning slogan, although he lost the election, to Barak in 1999, who did discuss not only the Golan Heights with Syria, but also the status of Jerusalem with the Palestinians, in the peace talks that took place the next year after he was given the mandate to do so by the Israeli electorate. The quote is of course a response to the famous Arab 'Three Nos', in the Khartoum Declaraton in September, 1967, following the Arabs defeat in the war that year : no peace, no recognition, and no negotiation with Israel. I concede that quote is accurate. but the other one, the Tianemen Square quote, is not. It's just made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Can you tell us what it means when Israeli children are being taught how to use M16s? - via their parents ? Not until you give your opinion on the actions of the woman in the OP. Let's deal with one thing at a time; there are far too many people on both sides who try to obliterate the atrocities of one side by immediately talking about some foul deed committed by the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Maybe that's because they haven't got a national state ? They have; Jordan. It was created at the same time as Israel; one part for the Jews and one for the Arabs. The "one part for the Jews" notion didn't last very long, as the Israeli parliament has always, and still does, allow Arabs full and equal rights with Jews, and indeed a good many parliament members are Arabs. I don't know if the converse is true of Jordan; other than that it's been run as a dictatorship since its inception, I don't know a lot about Jordanian politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Mod Note Posts removed for insulting other users, kindly keep it civil please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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