upinwath Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hopefully, but in this PC country of ours it's more than certain to be gifts of hot food and warm drinks. Give them 2 hours to vacate the plot - then it would be the water cannon if I was in charge. Regards Angel. A full 2 hours? Generous of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy Jnr Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 You really think the church would happily lose £20,000+ a day if they really didn't have to close the cathedral?! So, what if the church opens the doors to the cathedral, then what? What's to stop the protesters from entering the cathedral and holding up there? It would annoy if they didn't though huh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 It's their actions that has caused the cathedral to close it's doors. Their actions are perfectly legal. If they do something that is illegal, dangerous or could damage the church then you'd have a point. I don't see any reason why St Paul's is closed at the minute. Why should services be moved to alternative churches?! Should implies an obligation. I wouldn't use the word. I said 'can', or to be a little more specific I said 'could' earlier. It is a very simple way around the problem, if the Bishop wishes to take such a choice. There are 3 or 4 Churches or Cathedrals within 10 minutes of St Paul's that could be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 You really think the church would happily lose £20,000+ a day if they really didn't have to close the cathedral?! So, what if the church opens the doors to the cathedral, then what? What's to stop the protesters from entering the cathedral and holding up there? The Cathedral was open for 5 days before they closed it. During that time the protestors didnt once hold it up....to use your words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 What's to stop the protesters from entering the cathedral and holding up there? Is this argument by supposition? If the doors were open then nothing would stop them entering. If the doors were open though, nothing would stop any situation I wished to make up. "If the doors were open what's to stop militant cows spraying milk on the pews? Lock all the cows up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 What are these people trying to achieve? Do they have jobs to go too? Why aren't they staying there over night? Why don't the police move the tents when they all go home for tea? They've left the tents, it's classed as littering. http://www.occupylsx.co.uk for all you answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElasticMan Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 By being there, they are. It's their actions that has caused the cathedral to close it's doors. The bishop wouldn't have closed the cathedral now, if it wasn't for the protesters, would he?! Why should services be moved to alternative churches?! I suspect what little public support they currently have will soon vanish if remembrance services have to be cancelled or moved. The protester haven't forced the closure - that is solely down to the decision of the church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Their actions are perfectly legal. If they do something that is illegal, dangerous or could damage the church then you'd have a point. I don't see any reason why St Paul's is closed at the minute. Should implies an obligation. I wouldn't use the word. I said 'can', or to be a little more specific I said 'could' earlier. It is a very simple way around the problem, if the Bishop wishes to take such a choice. There are 3 or 4 Churches or Cathedrals within 10 minutes of St Paul's that could be used. I believe it's health and safety concerns, or that's what is being stated. There are many churches in London, and indeed near St Pauls, but why should something be cancelled or moved cos of a load of protesters? If it means so much to the protesters, why don't they move to another location? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 The protester haven't forced the closure - that is solely down to the decision of the church. A decision forced upon him as a result of having protesters on the cathedral's premises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 There are many churches in London, and indeed near St Pauls, but why should something be cancelled or moved cos of a load of protesters? If it means so much to the protesters, why don't they move to another location? They'd have to answer the latter question. As to the first, again I wouldn't say it "should" move. The service can go ahead and the protest should be polite enough not to disturb it. There is no reason why that situation cannot happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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