Jeffrey Shaw Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 The Church did give their blessings. But were they Brian Blessed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 How do you know? The former Canon said so. Canon of St Paul's: church cannot answer peaceful protest with violence Fraser said he decided to resign on Wednesday when he realised he could not reconcile his conscience with the possibility of the church and the Corporation of London combining to evict the protesters from the land outside the cathedral, some of which is jointly owned with the City. "The church cannot answer peaceful protest with violence," said Fraser, adding that it was apparent that the Corporation of London was clearer than the cathedral authorities about its desire to see the protesters moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrians Lad Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 They're not breaking any laws, let them be where they want to be. I think you will find there are numurous laws concerning obstruction of the public highways and footpaths they are breaking. Any one of these could be used to clear the tree huggers off the site . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 The former Canon said so. Canon of St Paul's: church cannot answer peaceful protest with violence Fraser said he decided to resign on Wednesday when he realised he could not reconcile his conscience with the possibility of the church and the Corporation of London combining to evict the protesters from the land outside the cathedral, some of which is jointly owned with the City. "The church cannot answer peaceful protest with violence," said Fraser, adding that it was apparent that the Corporation of London was clearer than the cathedral authorities about its desire to see the protesters moved on. That didn't answer the question how do you know the Trustees and the City of London have been putting pressure on for evictions; as opposed to they just have a desire to see the protesters moved on. He doesn’t say anything about Trustees and the City of London putting pressure on for evictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 That didn't answer the question how do you know the Trustees and the City of London have been putting pressure on for evictions Well ... if we're going to play with the exact words, then we don't. We do know that they have a desire, and that desire has shown itself in the protesters being asked to leave. You can disagree in calling it pressure, green can call it pressure, it all amounts to the same end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 Well ... if we're going to play with the exact words, then we don't. We do know that they have a desire, and that desire has shown itself in the protesters being asked to leave. You can disagree in calling it pressure, green can call it pressure, it all amounts to the same end. There's big difference between wanting someone to do something and putting pressure on someone to do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 There's big difference between wanting someone to do something and putting pressure on someone to do something. Yeah, it's the difference between uselessly sitting at home wishing something was different, and getting up and acting to make that difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Yeah, it's the difference between uselessly sitting at home wishing something was different, and getting up and acting to make that difference. Coming up with a credible growth strategy while at the same time reducing the deficit and persuading the government to run with it would make a difference. A bunch of the usual suspects camping in front a a catherdral is just wasting everyones time and will achieve absolutely nothing except inconveniencing the cathedral staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Coming up with a credible growth strategy while at the same time reducing the deficit and persuading the government to run with it would make a difference. There are plenty of economic theories bouncing around. One doesn't need a degree in economics to protest. They can say "I don't see this as fair" and go and do it without any other justification than their own desire to protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Coming up with a credible growth strategy while at the same time reducing the deficit and persuading the government to run with it would make a difference. A bunch of the usual suspects camping in front a a catherdral is just wasting everyones time and will achieve absolutely nothing except inconveniencing the cathedral staff. There are no credible growth strategies I'm afraid. There is only defecit - nothing else exists. The demonstration won't directly change policy, but only you seem to think people believe that it will. But the fact that we're here discussing it is a change that wouldn't have been effected had the protest not happened. And if we're discussing it, you can bet millions of others are doing exactly the same thing. Building awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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