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Occupiers list of demands....taken from the Guardian website.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/28/occupy-london-city-st-pauls

 

Activists who have occupied the grounds of London's St Paul's Cathedral have published their first list of demands, calling call for the democratisation of the Corporation of the City of London, the effective local authority which controls the UK's financial centre.

 

The attack on the square mile which has a series of ancient prerogatives including a "lobbyist" in the House of Commons follows Thursday's resignation of the canon chancellor, Giles Fraser, who also attacked the power of the City in an interview with the Guardian.

 

The statement has been signed by over half of the hundreds of activists at the Occupy London Stock Exchange protest.

 

The page-long list of demands says that democratic reform of The City Of London Corporation is "urgently needed" and describes City institutions as "unconstitutional and unfair".

 

The statement, which has been authored by 17 people over the last six days, also calls for an end to the corporations's own police force and judicial system which affords the square mile vast amounts of freedom to run its own affairs.

 

"The risk-taking of the banks has made our lives precarious – they are accountable to no one but themselves, unduly influencing government policy across the centuries both at home and abroad. This is not democracy," the statement adds.

 

The list, which is expected to be ratified before publication at a general meeting at 1.30pm on Friday, also called for:

 

• An end to business and corporate block-votes in all council elections, which can be used to outvote local residents.

 

• Abolition of existing "secrecy practices" within the City, and total and transparent reform of its institutions to end corporate tax evasion.

 

• The decommissioning of the City of London police with officers being brought under the jurisdiction of the Metropolitan police force.

 

• Abolition of the offices of Lord Mayor of London, the Sheriffs and the Aldermen.

 

• And a truth and reconciliation commission to examine corruption within the City and its institutions.

 

The statement has garnered support from authors and Blue Labour thinker Lord Maurice Glasman.

 

Glasman said: "Until today, the reclamation of the public space around St Paul's by protesters has been confused … It was better theatre than politics and that was frustrating because the backdrop, props and themes were superb."

 

Glasman said that St Paul's Cross was the site of the most ancient known democratic practice in the UK and it was the most appropriate spot to make a claim for the extension of citizenship.

 

"By declaring that the point of their protest is the democratisation of London the meaning of the occupation is transformed. It opens a prospect for civic renewal and the challenging of unaccountable power elites.

 

"The protesters have stumbled upon the source of financial power within the British state. This could get interesting," he added.

 

Nicholas Shaxson – the author of Treasure Islands, a book about the world of tax evasion – described the demands as "incredibly powerful".

 

"The City is something that has flown under the radar for so long, people have occasionally noticed the pomp and ceremony of the City but never really grasped what it is. This is a medieval commune dating back 1,000 years which represents the interest of international finance."

 

Shaxson added: "If you go to the City they will say, 'We're just a poor little local authority with a few thousands souls – don't worry about us.' But their influence runs far and deep both in the UK and overseas and they have supporters all over the place. They're not going to go away any time soon."

 

In an earlier interview with the Guardian, the St Paul's canon chancellor Giles Fraser said: "A great many people think that something has gone wrong in the City of London and that the wealth generated by the City does not exist for the benefit of us all."

 

Bryn Phillips, 28, a camp member who works in PR and is a co-author of the statement, said he hoped this would be "the beginning of the restoration of our democracy".

 

"It was drafted by 17 of us over six days and it has gathered even more signatures since we last spoke. We refuse to be evicted without first landing a blow to the corporation."

 

Socialist drival :roll:

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Be honest.....you dont even understand how the City of London Corporation works.

 

Ignorance is bliss, until you start to mis-inform and lie about issues. Your firmly in this catagory.

 

And you keep posting your stupid propaganda to try and steer this thread away from the real issue... you have been asked to leave, but you won't. Why don't you lot just swallow your pride and move on. Instead of acting like a bunch of brats.

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And you keep posting your stupid propaganda to try and steer this thread away from the real issue... you have been asked to leave, but you won't. Why don't you lot just swallow your pride and move on. Instead of acting like a bunch of brats.

 

So if you keep repeating yourselves, you think we will go? :loopy:

 

We will stay at St Paul's and we will keep this inequality and undemocratic political system in the headlines for as long as possible. We wont tire this time.

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So if you keep repeating yourselves, you think we will go? :loopy:

 

We will stay at St Paul's and we will keep this inequality and undemocratic political system in the headlines for as long as possible. We wont tire this time.

 

And, St Paul's has the pleasure of this because...?

 

I only repeat myself when your argument/answers are not satisfactory. At no point has it been stated why you are making St Paul's suffer for your crusade.

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So if you keep repeating yourselves, you think we will go? :loopy:

 

We will stay at St Paul's

 

I doubt it. Enjoy it while it lasts ,as it wont be long until the court papers are signed for you removal.

 

I look forward to you trying to tell the roit police who come to remove you that you arnt going.

 

Good luck with that . I somehow think you will lose that one .

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And, St Paul's has the pleasure of this because...?

 

I only repeat myself when your argument/answers are not satisfactory. At no point has it been stated why you are making St Paul's suffer for your crusade.

 

I have repeatedly. Read all previous comments.

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I have repeatedly. Read all previous comments.

 

No, you have given reasons for your protests. You haven't given reason(s) why you continue to protest at St Paul's, nor have you, and more importantly, stated why you refuse to move (after several requests from the church)?

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No, you have given reasons for your protests. You haven't given reason(s) why you continue to protest at St Paul's, nor have you, and more importantly, stated why you refuse to move (after several requests from the church)?

 

The page-long list of demands says that democratic reform of The City Of London Corporation is "urgently needed" and describes City institutions as "unconstitutional and unfair".

 

The statement, which has been authored by 17 people over the last six days, also calls for an end to the corporations's own police force and judicial system which affords the square mile vast amounts of freedom to run its own affairs.

 

"The risk-taking of the banks has made our lives precarious – they are accountable to no one but themselves, unduly influencing government policy across the centuries both at home and abroad. This is not democracy," the statement adds.

 

The list, which is expected to be ratified before publication at a general meeting at 1.30pm on Friday, also called for:

 

• An end to business and corporate block-votes in all council elections, which can be used to outvote local residents.

 

• Abolition of existing "secrecy practices" within the City, and total and transparent reform of its institutions to end corporate tax evasion.

 

• The decommissioning of the City of London police with officers being brought under the jurisdiction of the Metropolitan police force.

 

• Abolition of the offices of Lord Mayor of London, the Sheriffs and the Aldermen.

 

• And a truth and reconciliation commission to examine corruption within the City and its institutions.

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