Protesters camped at St Pauls

[green]

Fascinating.

 

Nicholas Shaxson, Treasure Islands is an amazing book and received critical acclaim all over the world.

[Bulgarian]

And I realised last week that the established church is meshed into it all as well.

 

The church is the original "control and milk the masses" organisation, they were raking it in well before WalMart and HSBC were thought of.

 

I still think this will go nowhere unless they come-up with a simple agenda/message and find some way of involving the general public.

[Agent Orange]

The church is the original "control and milk the masses" organisation, they were raking it in well before WalMart and HSBC were thought of.

 

I still think this will go nowhere unless they come-up with a simple agenda/message and find some way of involving the general public.

 

The only place this seems to be going is to the courts. It seems both the church and the city of london have both taken legal action and will be giving the protesters 48 hours to leave the site.

[truman]

Slightly related I suppose but does anyone know how the Church stands with it's own tax affairs...does it pay it's "fair share"?

[Agent Orange]

Occupy London Stock Exchange or whatever they are called adopted radical techniques to disrupt the banking system as well as the transport system. They are now resorting to being zombies. Yes, that's right... zombies. Oooh, I am sure those city folk will quiver at the thought of the dead roaming the streets. See link:

 

http://occupylondon.org.uk/

 

Enjoy!!

[green]

Here is what the #Occupation is trying to highlight. Taken from their website.

http://www.occupylondon.co.uk

 

Key Facts

Bank bail-outs:

 

The Bank of England estimates that the total costs of bailing out the financial system is £1.3tr, or more than 10 times the entire NHS budget.The UK bank bailout accounts for about 1/3 of the global banking bailout.

 

3 years on the British government continues to subsidise ‘too big to fail banks’ banks:

 

£46 billion: the combined subsidy the ‘Big Five’ UK banks enjoyed in 2010;

£10 billion: of British taxpayer’s money was paid in indirect subsidy to Barclays

Lloyds, RBS, HSBC and Nationwide also enjoyed subsidies of £15bn, £13bn, £7bn and £1bn respectively.

The ‘too-big-to-fail’ subsidy for the UK’s largest four banks is 62% higher than the equivalent subsidy in Germany, despite the fact that the German economy is significantly larger.

 

[New Economics Foundation, Quid Pro Quo, September 2011]

 

Austerity cuts:

 

£83 billion: the amount of public sector cuts planned by the government by 2014-15. Effectively cutting the incomes of ordinary people by

 

6.2% for typical families with two young people on modest earnings (£37,000 combined income)

4.2% for more well off families with children at university (£78,000 combined income)

10.4% the average working lone parent with two children

16.2% pensioner couples

The cuts are hitting the poorest hardest according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

 

[TUC, Where the Money Goes, October 2010:]

 

Unemployment:

 

The economy has lost 2 million jobs since the beginning of the recession.

2.57 million people out of work (or 8.1% of working-age population)

21.3% of 16-25 year olds out of work. That is almost 1 million young people, the demographic group that has lost out most from the fall in demand for labour.

250,000 jobs have been cut in the public sector in the last year.

Research published by TUC on Monday found that those previously working in the lowest paid jobs make up nearly half of all new unemployed claimants since 2008.

Inequality:

 

The top ten percent now have 100 times the wealth of the bottom ten percent.

The top ten percent earn 4.1 times the incomes of the bottom ten percent, with the top 1 percent more than 10 times. The same figure was 3.1 in 1961.

The average CEO earns 250 times the average cleaner.

Levels of social mobility are the lowest among all developed economies.

[Agent Orange]

Here is what the #Occupation is trying to highlight. Taken from their website.

http://www.occupylondon.co.uk

 

Key Facts

Bank bail-outs:

 

The Bank of England estimates that the total costs of bailing out the financial system is £1.3tr, or more than 10 times the entire NHS budget.The UK bank bailout accounts for about 1/3 of the global banking bailout.

 

3 years on the British government continues to subsidise ‘too big to fail banks’ banks:

 

£46 billion: the combined subsidy the ‘Big Five’ UK banks enjoyed in 2010;

£10 billion: of British taxpayer’s money was paid in indirect subsidy to Barclays

Lloyds, RBS, HSBC and Nationwide also enjoyed subsidies of £15bn, £13bn, £7bn and £1bn respectively.

The ‘too-big-to-fail’ subsidy for the UK’s largest four banks is 62% higher than the equivalent subsidy in Germany, despite the fact that the German economy is significantly larger.

 

[New Economics Foundation, Quid Pro Quo, September 2011]

 

Austerity cuts:

 

£83 billion: the amount of public sector cuts planned by the government by 2014-15. Effectively cutting the incomes of ordinary people by

 

6.2% for typical families with two young people on modest earnings (£37,000 combined income)

4.2% for more well off families with children at university (£78,000 combined income)

10.4% the average working lone parent with two children

16.2% pensioner couples

The cuts are hitting the poorest hardest according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

 

[TUC, Where the Money Goes, October 2010:]

 

Unemployment:

 

The economy has lost 2 million jobs since the beginning of the recession.

2.57 million people out of work (or 8.1% of working-age population)

21.3% of 16-25 year olds out of work. That is almost 1 million young people, the demographic group that has lost out most from the fall in demand for labour.

250,000 jobs have been cut in the public sector in the last year.

Research published by TUC on Monday found that those previously working in the lowest paid jobs make up nearly half of all new unemployed claimants since 2008.

Inequality:

 

The top ten percent now have 100 times the wealth of the bottom ten percent.

The top ten percent earn 4.1 times the incomes of the bottom ten percent, with the top 1 percent more than 10 times. The same figure was 3.1 in 1961.

The average CEO earns 250 times the average cleaner.

Levels of social mobility are the lowest among all developed economies.

 

And whilst this happens, the protesters will just prance around London, dancing to Michael Jackson's Thriller.

 

Yeah, go anarchists go!!

[Conrod]

Shame it's not a bit colder - some fire hoses on them 24/7 might encourage them to bugger off.

[MrSmith]

Here is what the #Occupation is trying to highlight. Taken from their website.

http://www.occupylondon.co.uk

 

Key Facts

Bank bail-outs:

 

The Bank of England estimates that the total costs of bailing out the financial system is £1.3tr, or more than 10 times the entire NHS budget.The UK bank bailout accounts for about 1/3 of the global banking bailout.

 

3 years on the British government continues to subsidise ‘too big to fail banks’ banks:

 

£46 billion: the combined subsidy the ‘Big Five’ UK banks enjoyed in 2010;

£10 billion: of British taxpayer’s money was paid in indirect subsidy to Barclays

Lloyds, RBS, HSBC and Nationwide also enjoyed subsidies of £15bn, £13bn, £7bn and £1bn respectively.

The ‘too-big-to-fail’ subsidy for the UK’s largest four banks is 62% higher than the equivalent subsidy in Germany, despite the fact that the German economy is significantly larger.

 

[New Economics Foundation, Quid Pro Quo, September 2011]

 

Austerity cuts:

 

£83 billion: the amount of public sector cuts planned by the government by 2014-15. Effectively cutting the incomes of ordinary people by

 

6.2% for typical families with two young people on modest earnings (£37,000 combined income)

4.2% for more well off families with children at university (£78,000 combined income)

10.4% the average working lone parent with two children

16.2% pensioner couples

The cuts are hitting the poorest hardest according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

 

[TUC, Where the Money Goes, October 2010:]

 

Unemployment:

 

The economy has lost 2 million jobs since the beginning of the recession.

2.57 million people out of work (or 8.1% of working-age population)

21.3% of 16-25 year olds out of work. That is almost 1 million young people, the demographic group that has lost out most from the fall in demand for labour.

250,000 jobs have been cut in the public sector in the last year.

Research published by TUC on Monday found that those previously working in the lowest paid jobs make up nearly half of all new unemployed claimants since 2008.

Inequality:

 

The top ten percent now have 100 times the wealth of the bottom ten percent.

The top ten percent earn 4.1 times the incomes of the bottom ten percent, with the top 1 percent more than 10 times. The same figure was 3.1 in 1961.

The average CEO earns 250 times the average cleaner.

Levels of social mobility are the lowest among all developed economies.

That’s stuff we know what we want to know is what is there alternative and how do they propose to achieve it.

[green]

That’s stuff we know what we want to know is what is there alternative and how do they propose to achieve it.

 

If you know this, does it not anger you that our politicians continue to look after their banking friends, but treat us with contempt?

 

As ive said before we should all we debating the alternatives together, not expecting 1 person or party to have all the answers.

 

Our present system is to keep bailing the financial industry, the ponzi system will fail eventually, but at what pain to the people?