Bulgarian Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Do the ponds need to be deeper, won't that make them more dangerous ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeeeeeeeeek Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Do the ponds need to be deeper, won't that make them more dangerous ? They would be the same depth, just water instead of mud! Much easier to get out if so they might even be safer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
websters gue Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Forge Dam is in a sorry state these days, I spent many a hour up there fishing when I was a kid. It seemed to start going downhill in the mid 80's when the cafe changed hands, there used to be a wooden board at the top of the wier and this was left to rot which resulted in the level of the dam dropping and subsequently silting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Forge Dam is in a sorry state these days, I spent many a hour up there fishing when I was a kid. It seemed to start going downhill in the mid 80's when the cafe changed hands, there used to be a wooden board at the top of the wier and this was left to rot which resulted in the level of the dam dropping and subsequently silting up. I was down there the other day, it's a sight. Surely it wouldn't be to cost prohibitive to get a crane with bucket on it to dredge the silt out of it. God alone knows how / why they took so long repairing Shepherds Wheel and still appear to have got it wrong. I don't think that they have made it deep enough. When they run the wheel the water level will fall so much that it will virtually drain all the pond leaving the fish etc high and dry! It seem's to me, to be too shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I was down there the other day, it's a sight. Surely it wouldn't be to cost prohibitive to get a crane with bucket on it to dredge the silt out of it. God alone knows how / why they took so long repairing Shepherds Wheel and still appear to have got it wrong. I don't think that they have made it deep enough. When they run the wheel the water level will fall so much that it will virtually drain all the pond leaving the fish etc high and dry! It seem's to me, to be too shallow. Shepherd Wheel has been restored to its original state. The dam is shallow because of the shallow depth of the sill feeding the pentrough. You could make it as deep as you like but the water would be unusable by the mill. The wheel is run only for a few minutes at a time, so the effect on the depth of the dam is negligible. The repairs took so long because the silt had to be removed to the original depth, then a new liner installed to stop the dam leaking. The alternative was to leave it silted and just clear a narrow stream to feed the wheel, but the public response preferred to have the whole dam restored. The length of the whole restoration is partly due to the specialist nature of much of the work, requiring a series of contracts for the various stages of the work. There was a public consultation about Forge Dam a while ago. You can still see the various proposals by following the links here http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7380601&postcount=21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Shepherd Wheel has been restored to its original state. The dam is shallow because of the shallow depth of the sill feeding the pentrough. You could make it as deep as you like but the water would be unusable by the mill. The wheel is run only for a few minutes at a time, so the effect on the depth of the dam is negligible. The repairs took so long because the silt had to be removed to the original depth, then a new liner installed to stop the dam leaking. The alternative was to leave it silted and just clear a narrow stream to feed the wheel, but the public response preferred to have the whole dam restored. The length of the whole restoration is partly due to the specialist nature of much of the work, requiring a series of contracts for the various stages of the work. There was a public consultation about Forge Dam a while ago. You can still see the various proposals by following the links here http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7380601&postcount=21 It some how looks shallower than it did before to me, and the body of water is narrower than it was previously as the banks seem to be closer together, thus making the overall vol of water less which will soon drain away when the wheel is working, which would be disastrous to the fish and other pond life. If, as you say the wheel will only run for short periods then I suppose this situation will be averted, hope nobody forgets to stop it! Cheers for links re: Forge Dam, will have a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 It some how looks shallower than it did before to me, and the body of water is narrower than it was previously as the banks seem to be closer together, thus making the overall vol of water less which will soon drain away when the wheel is working, which would be disastrous to the fish and other pond life. If, as you say the wheel will only run for short periods then I suppose this situation will be averted, hope nobody forgets to stop it! Cheers for links re: Forge Dam, will have a good look. It isn't narrower, well possibly very slightly, but not so that you would notice. I've watched the renovation at close quarters. They have dredged the whole pond. Put a brand new liner in, covered it in clay, then filled it. They are currently undertaking landscaping works around the pond and building an outdoor classroom at the rear of the mill building. It is all specialist work and it takes time. The new timber work is wonderful. Next time you are passing, give us a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 There's one possibility for the depth, so far the wheel has been run once to test the renovation. Except for the testing, it may be the level in the dam is actually lower than it will be when the wheel is fully restored and running regularly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebatty Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I was down there the other day, it's a sight. Surely it wouldn't be to cost prohibitive to get a crane with bucket on it to dredge the silt out of it. God alone knows how / why they took so long repairing Shepherds Wheel and still appear to have got it wrong. I don't think that they have made it deep enough. When they run the wheel the water level will fall so much that it will virtually drain all the pond leaving the fish etc high and dry! It seem's to me, to be too shallow. When I was e youngster we spent many a happy hour up at forge dam . Fishing and , at the top end in the beck , paddling . The last time I visited the dam had been reduced to a wetland area - full of silt and a complete mess . Someone has has shown a lack of responsibility . A crying shame . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 When I was e youngster we spent many a happy hour up at forge dam . Fishing and , at the top end in the beck , paddling . The last time I visited the dam had been reduced to a wetland area - full of silt and a complete mess . Someone has has shown a lack of responsibility . A crying shame . Who is the local MP?I am sure he will show some interest in this issue if pressed.There is a water shortage and these dams if cleaned could be used to irrigate the parks rather than use mains water as is the present policy.Is nt David Blunkett the MP for Hallam FM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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