HeadingNorth Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Have you contrbuted to the topic yet? Unlike you, he has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chun Li Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Its like a proper bitchfest on here. And heres me thinking i was going to be bored:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Its like a proper bitchfest on here. And heres me thinking i was going to be bored:lol: Boredom is only possible due to existence, and the perception that comes from it. Before you were bored, or anyone was ever bored, or thought that boredom existed, then boredom didn't exist. (ok I made that all up, I'm bored too, and can't sleep) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chun Li Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Boredom is only possible due to existence, and the perception that comes from it. Before you were bored, or anyone was ever bored, or thought that boredom existed, then boredom didn't exist. (ok I made that all up, I'm bored too, and can't sleep) I can tell your bored. And IM STILL AWAKE:rant:!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742Sheff Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 Thanks for the links to the documentary folks. Someone has PM'd me a link to it. Neither. In order for something to happen, there has to be a place for it to happen and sufficient time for it to do so. Neither time nor space even existed before the Big Bang event; they are products of that event. Terry Pratchett refers to this in his Discworld series as "the modern method of creating universes, which is to take nothing whatsoever and split it in half." It's as good a description as any since, by definition, no thing can exist until after the Big Bang event has taken place. But what was this 'event'? It feels like we are going around in circles Something clearly did exist before the big bang event. We just don't have an explanation for what it was. In order for something to have happened, there had to be a moment directly before it happened. This is what i tend to think due to me not being able to get my head around space just appearing out of nowhere. The only other explanation i can think of is divine intervention, and i don't like going down that route. There's no empirical evidence or logical reason to believe that this is the case. Why do you believe this? There is also no evidence or logical reason to believe this isn't the case is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Something clearly did exist before the big bang event. We just don't have an explanation for what it was. Some of us do! See Genesis [book, not group]. Plus why a 'bang'? Without air or atmosphere, and without anything to reverberate, no bang happened. And Buddhists might tell you that there was no sound as nothing/no-one physical was listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Something clearly did exist before the big bang event. We just don't have an explanation for what it was. In order for something to have happened, there had to be a moment directly before it happened. There was no before because they was no time. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 None of us originated on earth. We are stardust. (We are golden. - And we've got to get ourselves back to the garden.) I'm 2.9x10^-7 % gold jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 ... This is what i tend to think due to me not being able to get my head around space just appearing out of nowhere. The only other explanation i can think of is divine intervention, and i don't like going down that route. You're right not to go down that route as all it does is pose the question 'where did God come from'? From that point it's turtles all the way down. There's no empirical evidence or logical reason to believe that this is the case. Why do you believe this? There is also no evidence or logical reason to believe this isn't the case is there? There is plenty of evidence for an expanding universe. As to what happened before(sic) no one knows. There are lots of hypothesis though. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Why? ......... Because it's illogical to think otherwise. That's a logical impossibility; it leads to an infinite loop, since nothing can ever have been the first event.It is an illogical impossibility only in the sense that it's impossible for humans to explain. There's no empirical evidence or logical reason to believe that this is the case. Why do you believe this? I believe this because it would be illogical of me to presume that logical reasoning applies to this. Why do you believe logical reasoning applies to this when the laws of universal physics clearly do not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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