Maxster Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Did anyone watch this programme last night? Felt sorry for the genuine people trying to get a job but quite a number were happy not to work. Would the US model work here; it may well be around the corner in one form or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 It was getting me angry so I had to switch over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 The bit that really annoyed me was the woman complaining about "why should she work all day at minimum wage". Answer; because that's all you're going to be worth love and you'd get less than that if it were allowed. She went on to say she'd be worse off. Translation - she gets paid more now to do nothing than a working person. She then complained about not getting enough Child Benefit. It gets me so mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertramp Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Benefits should be a security blanket and help for the genuinely needy. You shouldn't have to pay tax till you earn say 12k to make working pay better then benefits. Unemployment benefits should be paid in stamps to ensure it is spent on necessities such as food, housing, clothing etc. and should not be able to be used on alcohol/cigarettes/drugs. Child benefits should be paid for first 2 children, the rest after that should not count towards any increase in benefits. It's a lifestyle choice these days, and if you can't afford to have children then I am not happy to support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Would the US model work here; it may well be around the corner in one form or another. Is the US economy a roaring success at the moment? Didn't it cause a global recession because homes were mis-sold to low-paid people who couldn't really afford them? Why would it be a good idea for it to work here? So we could cause the next global recession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Unemployment benefits should be paid in stamps to ensure it is spent on necessities such as food, housing, clothing etc. and should not be able to be used on alcohol/cigarettes/drugs. Look at the mess caused by housing benefit. That guy was getting £2300 a month to be paid unto his landlord. His landlord was profiting massively at the expense of everyone else. The working man is priced out of renting and buying, ends up claiming himself. Far better to give a man £2300 a month cash, and let him choose how much he wants to spend upon housing. When you start earmarking it for certain things you distort the price of those things for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Is the US economy a roaring success at the moment? Didn't it cause a global recession because homes were mis-sold to low-paid people who couldn't really afford them? Why would it be a good idea for it to work here? So we could cause the next global recession?I believe you'll find this particular problem, or issue, wasn't confined to the US at all, which is why the recession went global so quickly EDIT...as for the recession, it wasn't caused so much by this particular problem, but by the fact that financial organisations started trading such mortgages like barrels of oils and ounces of gold, to the point where they couldn't tell what was what and who owed what to whom. Same symptoms and outcome as 1929, really. What SHOULD have been done as early as 2008, was a concerted "tabula rasa" by the G20. Consolidate the balance sheets of everyone to know exactly what the state of things was, then wipe the slates clean, and maybe cut some financiers' heads for PR (those who started the whole toxic trading thing). And on we'd have continued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Is the US economy a roaring success at the moment? Didn't it cause a global recession because homes were mis-sold to low-paid people who couldn't really afford them? Why would it be a good idea for it to work here? So we could cause the next global recession? They have homeless people and are demolishing decent houses due to them being 'too cheap'. It's a complete joke. They demolish them to force up the price. Complete lunancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul2412 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Look at the mess caused by housing benefit. That guy was getting £2300 a month to be paid unto his landlord. His landlord was profiting massively at the expense of everyone else. The working man is priced out of renting and buying, ends up claiming himself. Far better to give a man £2300 a month cash, and let him choose how much he wants to spend upon housing. When you start earmarking it for certain things you distort the price of those things for everyone else. What incentive would someone have to rent out a property at a loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Far better to give a man £2300 a month cash, and let him choose how much he wants to spend upon housing. £2000 on booze and cigs, £100 on food, £100 at the bookies, £100 to live in a god forsaken **** hole. -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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