Sidla Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Originally posted by halevan Life is a succession of dilemas, shall I do this or that and it depends what we choose where we go in life, so it is not fate but ourselves that guide us on the way. But it could be said that the decisions we make are fate also. It could be fate that you don't believe in fate so you decide to do something radicle. There's no way you can either prove or disprove fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 Ying did tarat cards and was told she would get married very soon!!! so guys be carefull Ying's on the prowl and shes a mean one too she beat up Jamie *gasp* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 Originally posted by Fletch Ying did tarat cards and was told she would get married very soon!!! so guys be carefull Ying's on the prowl and shes a mean one too she beat up Jamie *gasp* Yeah ... that's right Fletch !!! ... she shoved me and knocked me flyinging in to the crisp bowl .... and then kept battering me with cushions all night ... got a violent streak that one !!! Brian: I like interdependence ... it's fun !! Another interesting concept ... is to have control over where you focus your attention. Think 'magnifying glass' ... whatever is in the focus of your attention increases ... I kinda link this to the 'assembleage point' idea discussed in the carlos casteneda books. On the subject of is your future set ... here goes: I believe each of us is a 'manifest expression' of the totality of existance (and non-existance) ... the unnameable all and nothing. We are each of us like the waves on the surface of the ocean ... insignificant expressions of something more vast and profound ... the ocean herself. </ramble> So is the future set !? ... here's an analogy for you ... Consider yourself to be driftwood floating downstream ... if you do nothing the river will take you where it will ... it takes energy and intent to change the course of your life. Of course ... you need to choose wisely (or feel) where you focus your energies ... and some courses of action will yield better results than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 Originally posted by Jamie Consider yourself to be driftwood floating downstream ... if you do nothing the river will take you where it will ... it takes energy and intent to change the course of your life. and you can expend all the energy you want but you willl still end up in the sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 hehe ... of course !! ... all rivers flow to the sea ... but you can change things within the scope of this lifetime's journey ... and maybe behond .... i would say this ... sometimes it is best to do nothing ... just wait and listen to the sound of the ocean. however ... this is most difficult to do and i find myself expending energy on projects left right and center ... and v often they don't come to fruition *sniffles*. i think the skill is very much in *feeling* when to act and when not to act ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t020 Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 IMHO, of course the future isn't set. When will people just accept that we're simply just another evolved species living on this planet - nothing special. Theres no God, theres no fate, theres just life and death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 the idea of your future being set is an odd one because we cant find out can we?? tommorrow ypu could try and suprise you future, instead of having break fast, not have breakfast, but has your future already said you will do that??? Its impossible to find out, you could try and change you future as much as you like but there is always another thing to do once you have done something, is this because of chance or has your future set it up?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidla Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Originally posted by t020 Of course the future isn't set. When will people just accept that we're simply just another evolved species living on this planet - nothing special. Theres no God, theres no fate, theres just life and death. Nobody had brought God into this until you just did. Why should fate have anything to do with God? If the universe started all over again with exactly the same constraints and parameters do you not think time up until now would happen in exactly the same way? If not how can you prove that it wouldn't? I was watching Horizon a few weeks back, which was about time travel. It said that technology is now getting so good that in a few years time we will be able to simulate Earth's history. If we ever do this, then it becomes highly likely that our existance is merely that of a simulation of the past of a more advanced mankind. If this is true then fate is almost certainly reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Originally posted by t020 Of course the future isn't set. When will people just accept that we're simply just another evolved species living on this planet - nothing special. Theres no God, theres no fate, theres just life and death. t020, nothing is set in concrete, you really should keep an open mind. Remember, it was people like you who once said the world is flat and would brook no argument. You really must learn to preface your remarks with In my opinion. It would make life a lot nicer and you wouldn't upset as many people as you do, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t020 Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Originally posted by Max t020, nothing is set in concrete, you really should keep an open mind. Remember, it was people like you who once said the world is flat and would brook no argument. You really must learn to preface your remarks with In my opinion. It would make life a lot nicer and you wouldn't upset as many people as you do, in my opinion. Done (see last post, edited, above), just for you max! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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