Stoatwobbler Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 you're right though - you do have a choice - and besides, the whole key-keg argument is off topic to dada itself It's certainly true that cask v key-keg is a subject worthy of a thread in it's own right. And what's more I would dare to suggest that people on this forum will talk a lot more sense on the subject then your average beer blogger! I guess one issue for me is people trying a key-keg beer, baulking at the price and blaming the pub selling it, when in fact they are just passing on the high costs from the brewers who make key-keg beer. As others have mentioned, if you have the choice of cheaper beer......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I've created this new thread (from the DaDa thread) as we've had a few different threads mentioning Key-Keg beer and the higher prices. I don't understand this - they have developed something better but the only benefit is it costs more? Or am I missing the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I've created this new thread (from the DaDa thread) as we've had a few different threads mentioning Key-Keg beer and the higher prices. I don't understand this - they have developed something better but the only benefit is it costs more? Or am I missing the point? I don't think you are missing the point. This is how keykeg is sold to breweries - "Reduction of costs and capital investment 25% more beer per transport and no return shipments Extra capacity during peak periods no expensive extra keg pool No loss or damage of steel kegs anymore Cleaning and administration costs are no longer necessary No storage of empty kegs And last but not least the KeyKeg® is cheap! New marketing opportunities" Yet it is sold to customers (drinkers) at a massive mark-up because it's "innovative" If it looks like a rip off, and sounds like a rip off and tastes like a rip off....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 its a ludicrous amount of money for a pint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayVee Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 its a ludicrous amount of money for a pint. Sorry if I am out of the loop but what is Key-Keg beer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp87 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Sorry if I am out of the loop but what is Key-Keg beer?? it's a swizz, that's what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Key keg is a rip off in my view. I defy anyone who is involved in this "innovative and exciting product" (as those who are involved in its production class it) to come on here and explain why it should cost so much more for a product which tastes inferior and costs the producers less. In any other industry this wouldnt happen yet for some reason in the beer industry it seems acceptable. One argument seems to be that the beer lasts longer and travels better so it can be enjoyed by more people further away. That seems reasonable but doesnt explain why local brewers are using it in their local pubs ie Thornbridge. Seems like profiteering to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayVee Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 it's a swizz, that's what it is. Ok but WHAT IS IT!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaks Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 So what is the official 'campaign' line? Let me guess, there isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoatwobbler Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Sorry if I am out of the loop but what is Key-Keg beer?? Good question. There's a lot of misinformation out there from both the advocates and denigrators of key-keg beer so it can get confusing. It's a way of serving beer that means you can have cold fizzy beer that's also unfiltered and unpasteurised like a real ale. Hopefully the below blogpost by a former Thornbridge brewer should be of some use here. http://beerevolution.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/lets-brew-a-lager/ Personally I think it's miles better then regular kegged beer. You get much more flavour and character then you do with regular kegged beer. However, I do not prefer it to proper cask ale. I don't think beer needs to be cold and fizzy. The best key-keg beer I've had is Brewdog Punk IPA and even then I prefer it on cask. And that's before we even get to the cost issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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