truman Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Remember your granny having different pots of savings for the rent etc ……………. Well apparently those costs came out of a different pot ………………. You couldn’t make it up. Would you prefer FM not to get the cash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Would you prefer FM not to get the cash? Better late than never I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Has Mr Clegg done a u turn.? it looks like it to me..i think he is trying to buy some friends in Sheffield :suspect: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gmYOLoxxVz1ha889GjqU38jhGKJw?docId=N0371361320058859136A Judging from the article to which you link, it seems he hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donmac Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 It is great news that FM is getting the cash. I am no ConDem supporter but at least this government is not trying to turn us all into a nation of barmen and McD staff, like the Purse Snatcher did. They do appear to understand the importance of manufacturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confudler Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 It is great news that FM is getting the cash. I am no ConDem supporter but at least this government is not trying to turn us all into a nation of barmen and McD staff, like the Purse Snatcher did. They do appear to understand the importance of manufacturing. Yes, better people are unemployed than working in McDs! And how exactly does messing about with the financing demonstrate an understanding of the importance of manufacturing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Can we at least define terms? 1. LOAN= money paid-over by lender to debtor, but repayable. 2. GIFT= money paid-over by lender to debtor, not repayable. 3. GRANT= GIFT, unless there are contractually-binding conditions attached. Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I hope Mr Cameron has cleared it with Andrew Cook this time. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-10726896 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donmac Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Yes, better people are unemployed than working in McDs! And how exactly does messing about with the financing demonstrate an understanding of the importance of manufacturing? I agree that it is better to be unemployed than working in McDs. Making money available to manufacturing does tend to suggest that they attach some importance to it I would suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confudler Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Dear Don "I agree that it is better to be unemployed than working in McDs" mac, I was being sarcastic but am suddenly worried that you might actually feel this to be a valid opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The reasons have been explained. It's your prerogative to refuse to accept them. I'm happy enough with them, particularly since hindsight is vindicating the Gvt's original decision quite nicely, looks like a win for the taxpayers from where I'm standing. This new loan is for a different purpose, no doubt there will be -accordingly- different Gvt strings attached to it. Particularly in terms of how many new jobs created (since at least part of the new loan is specifically for apprenticeships). Are you now objecting to the Gvt helping fund new job opportunities in Sheffield? Is it because they is LibCons? This conversation has been had on here. Why did Forgemasters not go for private funding after the Gvt refused the loan? Could it be that, since the "free" money (or money with less strings attached, at any rate) was not forthcoming, the business development case fell on its @rse? Some investment opportunity that would have been for the Gvt They tried to get private funds BEFORE they approached the Govt. but the terms can't have been satisfactory. Have you not heard how that the Banksters are unwilling to lend businesses esp manufacturers money at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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