Lady Star Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 What about having kids with a big age gap......is it a bit embarrassing for the child when the dad or mum turns up at school looking like a grand parent.? Kids aren't too likely with one super old parent though, are they? Most things dry up, as it were, eventually... If you are going out of your way to get hooked up with a old one, are you thinking about kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 Sadly, I was always told that men 'drop off' the fit scale at 36 - At 37, I feel grateful I managed one extra year! Women have the benefit of cosmetics and spanx - men just have to suffer the ageing process warts (not myself, of course) and all... Straight men also seem to care less about their appearance, and women seem to be a little more forgiving? I fear you are deluded to think men wear better though - although it seems your nice young totty is good enough to pretend otherwise, for the time being at least! Its a man thing about looking after yourself. Although I'm not gay.. I have always looked after myself. I eat healthily, don't drink much, don't smoke, go to the gym daily and have used cosmetics since my late twenties. You see even back then I had a plan to stay fit... Funnily enough I went in a pub a while back and was shouted over by this obese, wrinkly, grey skinned, bald, wheezing bloke. I didn't recognise him, it turned out I went to school with him. We exchanged hellos etc. He asked where I drank these days, I said I don't really bother, I don't have a local. He looked shocked and said I needed, in so many words, to get down the pub more with the lads and him. I though, "you're looking good on it any way mate"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Star Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Its a man thing about looking after yourself. Although I'm not gay.. I have always looked after myself. I eat healthily, don't drink much, don't smoke, go to the gym daily and have used cosmetics since my late twenties. You see even back then I had a plan to stay fit... Funnily enough I went in a pub a while back and was shouted over by this obese, wrinkly, grey skinned, bald, wheezing bloke. I didn't recognise him, it turned out I went to school with him. We exchanged hellos etc. He asked where I drank these days, I said I don't really bother, I don't have a local. He looked shocked and said I needed, in so many words, to get down the pub more with the lads and him. I though, "you're looking good on it any way mate"..... Ah - my friends and I socialise regularly, and often that includes a few wines, but we are painfully aware that we do not look as we once did, whereas the ladies in our circle have been able to keep time at bay through smoke and mirrors... I have a few mates who use blush and powders, but have to say that even as a gay man, I remain resolutely a northern gay man, and I can't face foundation... Good for you though, in not having my hang ups... I fear that you may not look as great as you think you do though - age comes to us all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Sadly, I was always told that men 'drop off' the fit scale at 36 - At 37, I feel grateful I managed one extra year! Women have the benefit of cosmetics and spanx - men just have to suffer the ageing process warts (not myself, of course) and all... Straight men also seem to care less about their appearance, and women seem to be a little more forgiving? I fear you are deluded to think men wear better though - although it seems your nice young totty is good enough to pretend otherwise, for the time being at least! I agree with this and said as much on a thread on here about women supposedly letting themselves go. It is not a case of men ageing better at all, the fact is that women are judged far more on their appearances than men and female beauty is totally and utterly (with the odd exception, such as Helen Mirren) synonymous with youth. This is reflected in the media where women of a certain age are put out to pasture whilst their male counterparts (such as newsreaders) continue well into middle age and beyond. Because of this dreadful gender imbalance, women tend to look after themselves more as well as use all the tricks of the trade such as hair dye, make-up etc. EDIT: forgot to mention the balding male. I know men cannot help losing their hair, but this 'men age better' line is absolute tosh. They are judged differently which is more to the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 Kids aren't too likely with one super old parent though, are they? Most things dry up, as it were, eventually... If you are going out of your way to get hooked up with a old one, are you thinking about kids? No but the girl I'm seeing now said she wanted kids. I mentioned the age thing and she's at university how would she cope. She wanted me to give up work and raise the kid. Do you know I'd quite like to do that... Although I'm much older now, my oldest son is 36, I think I'd be a much better dad..... But the thought of the poor kid puts me off now.... The age thing has always been a bit mixed up in my life. I was a dad for the first time when I was 15yrs 1week old, still at school. I'm about to become a great grand-dad, in April, at the age of 53... Its been an interesting journey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Star Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 No but the girl I'm seeing now said she wanted kids. I mentioned the age thing and she's at university how would she cope. She wanted me to give up work and raise the kid. Do you know I'd quite like to do that... Although I'm much older now, my oldest son is 36, I think I'd be a much better dad..... But the thought of the poor kid puts me off now.... The age thing has always been a bit mixed up in my life. I was a dad for the first time when I was 15yrs 1week old, still at school. I'm about to become a great grand-dad, in April, at the age of 53... Its been an interesting journey... Only you know if you are ready to retire to a state of granddad-ness! Your child would also have the benefit of your son, as a replacement father figure when someone younger is needed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 But children are 'baggage', especially of they have problems. If you enter into a relationship with someone with children then you have to be prepared to take all that on, even if they're adult as they may at some point come back or need financial/emoptional support. You may also end up caring for your father at some point, which is 'baggage'. Any family commitment is a form of 'baggage' as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps you should have defined 'baggage' as emotional issues. What does accessories refer to then? We'll agree to differ. Perhaps I should have said hang ups...I don't see ones family or their other personal circumstances as baggage. I meant more people who have had problems in relationships before and bring all their jealousies, insecurities and doubt with them. I suppose we all have them but some don't inflict them on others.... Its not a male v woman thing although I agree women are judged more on their looks. Some of this blame is down to the women themselves though. Although, women judge men these days on their looks, women are just as shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 Only you know if you are ready to retire to a state of granddad-ness! Your child would also have the benefit of your son, as a replacement father figure when someone younger is needed... I'll bear that in mind...Cheek.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 I agree with this and said as much on a thread on here about women supposedly letting themselves go. It is not a case of men ageing better at all, the fact is that women are judged far more on their appearances than men and female beauty is totally and utterly (with the odd exception, such as Helen Mirren) synonymous with youth. This is reflected in the media where women of a certain age are put out to pasture whilst their male counterparts (such as newsreaders) continue well into middle age and beyond. Because of this dreadful gender imbalance, women tend to look after themselves more as well as use all the tricks of the trade such as hair dye, make-up etc. EDIT: forgot to mention the balding male. I know men cannot help losing their hair, but this 'men age better' line is absolute tosh. They are judged differently which is more to the point. And there we have the paradox of someone claiming its wrong to judge people on their looks but them state this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We'll agree to differ. Perhaps I should have said hang ups...I don't see ones family or their other personal circumstances as baggage. I meant more people who have had problems in relationships before and bring all their jealousies, insecurities and doubt with them. I suppose we all have them but some don't inflict them on others.... Its not a male v woman thing although I agree women are judged more on their looks. Some of this blame is down to the women themselves though. Although, women judge men these days on their looks, women are just as shallow. I agree with you about hang ups but that is not age specific, surely? I would consider family members to be 'part of the deal'. This is age specific as the older we are, the greater the likelihood that we have children, who these days are financially dependent for far longer than previously, as well as aged parents who may need caring for. Also, offspring these days seem to increasingly expect their parents to do a significant amount of childcare for their grandchildren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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